L20 #1 Axis-dominion (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+12) BM3

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 mech_infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
              Italians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British
        1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
              Italians take Kenya from British
        1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
              Italians take Alexandria from British
        2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to British Somaliland
              Italians take British Somaliland from British
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Tunisia

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Gibraltar
        Battle in 97 Sea Zone
            Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
            British defend with 1 submarine
                Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 submarine in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the British lost in 97 Sea Zone
            Italians win, taking Gibraltar from British, taking 97 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for British: 1 submarine
        Battle in Tunisia
            Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            French defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tunisia, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the French and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tunisia
            Italians win, taking Tunisia from French with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for French: 1 infantry
        Battle in Southern France
            Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
            British defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry; French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Southern France
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the French and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern France
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 4 : 0/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 aaGun and 1 artillery in Southern France, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern France
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 2 artilleries in Southern France, round 5 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 aaGun and 1 artillery in Southern France, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 aaGun owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Southern France
            Italians win, taking Southern France from French with 1 armour and 2 artilleries remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
            Casualties for British: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
            Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French
        2 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        1 bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        2 infantry moved from Albania to Bulgaria
        1 armour moved from Albania to Slovakia Hungary
        1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
        1 aaGun moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
        1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy

    Place Units - Italians
        1 submarine placed in 97 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,4
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3
        Italians collect 13 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 13 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians : -4.83
British : -0.17
French : 0.00

Savegame

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 Axis-dominion (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+12) BM3:

I ve removed ur german fig, and presserved ur italian ones. If u want to change it, change it.

I am not sure, but i think when my sub was left alone against ur figs, that i had the option to retreat?

is this true, or the triple a is wrong there?

if so i ll retreat to cyprus sz

no, you can’t retreat if you kill the transport, as by doing so, you “conquered” the sea zone, even though you lost the overall battle. however, I believe you could have opted out of taking the transport and retreated instead.

I’m starting to think that actually, a sub cannot retreat if there are only defenseless transports. that it has to finish them off (much like one cannot retreat from a land battle if there are only aa guns left). however, for this, it’s best to ask gamerman if you really need to know.

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 2

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 11 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        3 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
        1 armour moved from Bulgaria to Greece
        2 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Greece
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Greece
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
        2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Greece
        1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
        2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 artillery moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium
        1 artillery moved from France to Holland Belgium
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
        2 fighters moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Greece
            Germans attack with 3 armour, 4 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
            Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 4 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Greece, round 2 : 5/10 hits, 4.17 expected hits
                Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                4 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Greece
            Germans win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
        Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
            Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 artillery in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux
            Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for French: 1 artillery
        Battle in Holland Belgium
            Germans attack with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
            French defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Holland Belgium
            Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from French with 2 artilleries and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for French: 1 infantry
        Battle in 92 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
            French defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 destroyer in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the French lost in 92 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for French: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 aaGun moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
        1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
        1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
        1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland
        3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 13 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        5 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Romania
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Yugoslavia
        1 armour moved from France to Yugoslavia
        1 mech_infantry moved from France to Yugoslavia
        4 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from France to Germany
        1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern Italy
        1 bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        1 bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        2 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
        3 tactical_bombers moved from Greece to Southern Italy

    Place Units - Germans
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 112 Sea Zone
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Southern Italy: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        10 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
        1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs
        Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -2.67
French : 0.00
Neutral_Allies : -0.33

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 marine, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Politics - Japanese
        Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
              Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
              Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Szechwan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Szechwan
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
              Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese
        2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
        5 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        5 fighters moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        1 armour moved from Kwangsi to Hunan

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Hunan
            Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 2/9 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
            Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Szechwan
            Japanese attack with 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers
            Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in Szechwan, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan
            Japanese win with 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter
            Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
        Battle in Yunnan
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers
            Chinese defend with 6 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 2 : 4/15 hits, 8.00 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 6 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 4 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 3 : 6/14 hits, 7.83 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
            Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 6 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
        1 artillery moved from Chahar to Anhwe
        1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
        1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Siam to 37 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to 37 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to Anhwe
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to Anhwe
        2 bombers moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Manchuria
        1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Anhwe
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to Kwangsi
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Siam
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Siam
        1 fighter moved from Yunnan to 37 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        2 destroyers moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Siam
        1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Anhwe
        1 fighter moved from Yunnan to 36 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Yunnan to 36 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Siam
        2 fighters moved from Yunnan to Siam
        1 cruiser moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        3 mech_infantrys placed in Kiangsu
        1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
        1 marine placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs
        Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 43 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese : -0.67
Japanese : -7.83

Savegame

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 Axis-dominion (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+12) BM3:

@axis-dominion said in L20 #1 Axis-dominion (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+12) BM3:

I’m starting to think that actually, a sub cannot retreat if there are only defenseless transports. that it has to finish them off (much like one cannot retreat from a land battle if there are only aa guns left). however, for this, it’s best to ask gamerman if you really need to know.

we have the answer

sub is required to stay after sinking the last combat ship. You can’t retreat from transports (or AAA guns)

perfect, thank you!

also, can you do me a favor, and turn on your online status, so I can always tell when you’re online (shows green)? it really helps when planning and also when asking for orders