I am playing a casual game of BM3 (3.0) with Canada being a separate faction instead of under British’s domain. I noticed in the game that China does not spawn guerrillas in Japan’s territories not garrisoned by a land unit. The notes differ as to also in that China gets another +3 for their Objective. Is this a compensation or a bug rather?
axis-dominion vs simon (allies+10) bm3
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And no SBR? Hmm.
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Expected TUV from SBR would have been +7, some of which would have been damage he would have had to repair himself. In the end it would have been worth maybe 2 inf but at the risk of german bombers which are worth a lot more.
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yah I didn’t want to risk my bombers. I know have overwhelming odds anyway
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 5 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 marine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur Non Combat Move - Russians 1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 4 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia 8 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus 1 artillery moved from Novgorod to Vyborg 3 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 cruiser moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk Place Units - Russians 4 infantry placed in Russia 2 artilleries and 1 marine placed in Novgorod 3 artilleries placed in Ukraine Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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So the rationale for the G4 SL being that the extra units built in London just get destroyed by the extra forces Germany can bring in, for 0 effective loss while also keeping USA out of the war? But it does also leave USSR unmolested for another turn.
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Keeps russia out of the war for another turn too.
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@ksmckay said in axis-dominion vs simon (allies+10) bm3:
Keeps russia out of the war for another turn too.
Doesn’t that part help the allies?
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In a sealion game Russia is a major threat to germany, not the other way around. This gives germany an extra turn. And germany will end up a lot stronger after a g4 sea lion than a g3 and so will be able to better defend itself against russia long term. If russia had been at war this turn after a g3 sea lion they would have made another 14-20 ipcs. And germanys air wouldnt have been in bosition to do anything about it so next turn they would have been in good shape as well.
So no I dont think it benefits allies at all.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 battleship, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific 1 armour moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung Japanese take Kwangtung from UK_Pacific 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes 1 marine moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan Japanese take Szechwan from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Suiyuyan 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi Japanese take Shensi from Chinese 2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Suiyuyan 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kiangsi 1 mech_infantry moved from Hopei to Kiangsi 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi 2 fighters moved from Kwangsi to Kiangsi 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Kiangsi 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in 54 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 54 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Borneo Battle in Sumatra Battle in Celebes Battle in Java Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber ANZAC defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry AA fire in Java : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in Java Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser in Java, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Java, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 aaGun and 1 infantry in Java, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 aaGun owned by the ANZAC lost in Java Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Java, round 3 : 0/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Java, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Java, round 4 : 2/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Java, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific, taking Sumatra from UK_Pacific, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -5 Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter and 1 infantry Casualties for ANZAC: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry Battle in Suiyuyan Japanese attack with 2 bombers and 2 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Suiyuyan Japanese win, taking Suiyuyan from Chinese with 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in 37 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 2 fighters, 1 submarine, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport British defend with 1 destroyer Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 3.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 37 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 37 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 battleship, 2 fighters, 1 submarine, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Kiangsi Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers British defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Kiangsi, round 2 : 4/10 hits, 4.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Kiangsi, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Kiangsi Japanese win, taking Kiangsi from Chinese with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 2 infantry Battle in Malaya Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 marines moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 marines and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 marines moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China Japanese take French Indo China from Neutral_Axis 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Kiangsi to 37 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsi to 35 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns and 9 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Chahar 1 artillery moved from Kweichow to Hopei 1 artillery moved from Kweichow to Anhwe 2 bombers moved from Suiyuyan to Anhwe 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Kwangsi 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi 1 artillery moved from Hunan to Kwangsi 1 artillery moved from Kweichow to Hunan 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi Place Units - Japanese 1 battleship, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 59 PUs; end with 60 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
British : -0.33 ANZAC : 0.00 Chinese : 1.00 AA fire in Java : : 0.67 Japanese : -2.50 -
14IPCs is more than I would have thought but 6LL, 3No Allies, 2+3Finland does indeed reach that mark.
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Since I’ve attacked Iraq, it can be overflown on both combat move and NCM, right?
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Not to keep going on about this, but thats what a J3 looks like with no US. You will take out zero transports. And japan grabbed everything of importance. Thats worth a lot more than 7 ipcs. UK better get quite the win out of DOW on japan otherwise its never worth it.
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@simon33 said in axis-dominion vs simon (allies+10) bm3:
Since I’ve attacked Iraq, it can be overflown on both combat move and NCM, right?
Yes
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@ksmckay said in axis-dominion vs simon (allies+10) bm3:
Not to keep going on about this, but thats what a J3 looks like with no US. You will take out zero transports. And japan grabbed everything of importance. Thats worth a lot more than 7 ipcs. UK better get quite the win out of DOW on japan otherwise its never worth it.
I think he assumed a G3 SL, with London falling down, falling down, falling down, which is why he went for the Dow on japan.
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Just checked the rulebook. The US DD isn’t allowed to end turn next to “Japan-controlled territories”! That means it can’t remain in the DEI even if it wants to. Was kind of expecting original controlled or something.
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yeah, but even if you were going for a G3 Sea lion, if UK dows japan, then I think there is plenty of reason to wait till g4. Basically gives axis a free turn. As you said you were going g4 all the way, but I think if you had planned a g3 and saw the UK DOW you would have changed your mind.
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Japan didnt control it at the time so nothing wrong with it.
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@ksmckay said in axis-dominion vs simon (allies+10) bm3:
Japan didnt control it at the time so nothing wrong with it.
Yeah but I only have about 3-4 places to go. All bad.
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ah, you mean this turn. yeah thats annoying.
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while unlikely, that rule could result in a situation where there is no legal move. surprising its not original controlled.
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