Surfer (Allies +6) vs. Max332 (Axis) BM3 LL no Tech

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    No use the file just before that one. That one was just for the bombing of London

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    @max334 all the editing should be done except for the bombers and ftrs

  • 2024 2023 '22 '21 '20

    Um. I thought the comment about scramble and attack on DD was for SZ101 against US.

    If you are attacking with 2 subs against UK DD, then I would max scramble to protect the DD.
    I never saw the combat to kill the UK DD. You’d have 1 in 4 chance to hit, and then the aircraft would kill both subs.

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    I’ll try to clarify what actions I took regarding attacks on the Destroyers and the bombing of London only. Pls let me know if this looks right to you.

    1. 3 subs attack your UK Destroyer
      You scramble 3 ftrs
      Result is your DD dies and 2 or 3 of my subs die.
    2. 1 sub attacks your US Destroyer
      You scramble
      Result is your DD and my sub dies
    3. 4 bombers and 4 ftrs go into London
      You do not launch interceptors
      They cause damage of 14
      Total factory damage is now 17
  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    Ok, scratch my clarification. When I ran a simulation, I again learned something new about sub battles. Pls change my attack on the UK DD and London bombing as follows:

    3 subs and 2 ftrs attack your UK Destroyer

    4 bombers and 2 ftrs go into London

    Pls tell me how you would respond (ie number of scramblers and interceptors).

    We can keep all rolls that have been made the same.

    Sorry for multiple changes, this is new to me too. Especially with low luck. Thanks

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    TripleA Move Summary: Germans round 10

    TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 10
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 103 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 101 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 81 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 80 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Union of South Africa: 1 armour
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Union of South Africa: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 armour moved from Yenisey to Buryatia
                  Germans take Yakut S.S.R. from Russians
                  Germans take Buryatia from Russians
            1 armour moved from Nenetsia to Urals
            1 artillery moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Denmark to 113 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern France to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from France to 110 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            2 bombers moved from France to United Kingdom
            2 bombers moved from Southern France to United Kingdom
    

    Savegame

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    so the map I just sent you is intended for the sz110 battle and London bombing only. I made some edits, but I did not do the Russian battles. I’ll edit those later to reflect the actual rolls made and results achieved including the NCM’s. Its kind of clear in my head, but I know it may not be that way for you. Let me know

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    TripleA Move Summary: Germans round 10

    TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 10
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 103 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 101 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 81 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 80 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Union of South Africa: 1 armour
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Union of South Africa: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 110 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 110 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 armour moved from Yenisey to Buryatia
                  Germans take Yakut S.S.R. from Russians
                  Germans take Buryatia from Russians
            1 armour moved from Nenetsia to Urals
            1 artillery moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Denmark to 113 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            2 bombers moved from France to United Kingdom
            2 bombers moved from Southern France to United Kingdom
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern France to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from France to 110 Sea Zone
    

    Savegame

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    Are we good? Let me know if you disagree with anything I did

  • 2024 2023 '22 '21 '20

    Yes, we’re good. I think you found a good attack. I don’t think it is worth it to scramble as I’ll need the fighters later.

    No scramble.

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    Yah scrambling would be a bad idea. What I didn’t know before is that I would be allowed to take subs as losses because of your DD, but your losses would be in ftrs. And if you launched max of 4 interceptors your odds would only be 50-50.

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    TripleA Move Summary: Germans round 10

    TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 10
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 103 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 101 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 81 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 80 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Union of South Africa: 1 armour
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Union of South Africa: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 110 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 110 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 armour moved from Yenisey to Buryatia
                  Germans take Yakut S.S.R. from Russians
                  Germans take Buryatia from Russians
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern France to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from France to 110 Sea Zone
    

    Savegame

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 10

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 10
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 103 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 101 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 81 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 80 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Union of South Africa: 1 armour
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Union of South Africa: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 110 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 110 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 armour moved from Yenisey to Buryatia
                  Germans take Yakut S.S.R. from Russians
                  Germans take Buryatia from Russians
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern France to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from France to 110 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 fighters and 3 submarines
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 2 fighters and 3 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Caucasus: 3 infantry
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Caucasus from Russians to Germans
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Southern France: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 aaGun moved from Nenetsia to Urals
            1 mech_infantry moved from Nenetsia to Urals
            1 armour moved from Nenetsia to Novosibirsk
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Tsinghai to Novosibirsk
            2 armour moved from Tsinghai to Novosibirsk
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tsinghai to Caucasus
            1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Scotland
            1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Scotland
            5 transports moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            5 artilleries, 5 infantry and 5 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Denmark to 113 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            6 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from 111 Sea Zone to Scotland
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters moved from 109 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 103 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Southern France to Scotland
            1 bomber moved from France to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from France to Scotland
            1 aaGun, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Karelia
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Slovakia Hungary
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Slovakia Hungary
            1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Poland
            1 aaGun, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Romania
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Poland
    
        Place Units - Germans
            3 artilleries placed in Normandy Bordeaux
            1 artillery, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
            Germans undo move 2.
            3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 5 infantry placed in Western Germany
            4 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 56 PUs; end with 56 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Yenisey: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Tsinghai: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Novosibirsk: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Germany: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Southern France: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Normandy Bordeaux: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Germany: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Southern France: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans : 0.00
    British : -0.33
    

    Savegame

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    I merged the two maps. Let me know if I missed anything

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    …I did forget to edit your factory damage to 17

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    I’ll make the following edits that I forgot to make to my purchase and placement based on the fact that Germany did not do a SeaLion.

    1. place 2 art in W Germany instead of Normandy
    2. swap out 2 mech & 1 inf (I had placed in Ger) for a Tac
    3. place 2 Tacs in France
    4. NCM 1 mech to W Ger instead of Poland

    let me know if you see others or any mistakes I made with all the edits. Here is the map

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    just checking in to see if we are all good

  • 2024 2023 '22 '21 '20

    Ok, I’m pretty good, but one minor point. At the end of the turn you have two phases of edits. The first I follow. The second involves buying an extra Tac ftr and several inf moves
    2 Tac -> France, Remove 1 Tac ftr W. Germany + 1 inf + 2 mob inf Germany == good
    Mv mob inf from Poland to Germany == good

    this is the problem move
    Add 2 art + inf to W. Germ, rm 2 art from Normandy

    I would just remove one inf in W. Germ and call it good, but making sure you are ok with that.

    Sorry, I’ve been slow this week, several items had to get finished at work.

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    …with all the edits and misunderstanding on how sub attacks in our specific situation work I just did not think much about my purchase decision. Each time it was more of an afterthought. I was trying to just get the bombing and DD attacks clear. I mean who wants to put a lot of thought into something that may not matter anyway. Anyway, you seem very fair minded so maybe we can come up with a good compromise. Obviously my purchase is based on making a 3rd attempt on SeaLion while previously it was based on defending the Eastern Front.

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