Q&A with Axis & Allies Online Developers, Beamdog


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    @DoManMacgee said in Q&A with Axis & Allies Online Developers, Beamdog:

    Support for additional games (G40, Revised, AA50, etc.) down the line.

    @redrum said

    I’m interested to see if they eventually try to tackle say Global 40, how they would try to adjust that to fit the vision of make asynchronous play easier and faster.

    As the article mentioned, they’re putting all of their focus on 1942 Second Edition. However, you should take a look at Beamdog’s track record. Only 7 years ago, they had only 2 games published, MDK2 and Buldur’s Gate. Baldur’s Gate was successful and now they have the full line up of late 90s and early 2000s RPGs on tablets and/or Steam and/or consoles. If A&A Online is successful, the sky could be the limit.


  • @Panther I disagree. The rule changes are not major enough to call them different games in the slightest. It’s just OOL being predetermined, and no shared carriers/transports.

    TripleA has a 42SE scenario that I can play online, and dozens of other scenarios that I can also play online. TripleA also has a built-in forum poster.

    A&A Online has a 42SE scenario that I can play online, with shiny graphics. Other than tutorials to help new players get up to speed, that’s about all the game has to offer.

    One is clearly superior to the other here, at least initially.


  • @djensen said in Q&A with Axis & Allies Online Developers, Beamdog:

    @DoManMacgee said in Q&A with Axis & Allies Online Developers, Beamdog:

    Support for additional games (G40, Revised, AA50, etc.) down the line.

    @redrum said

    I’m interested to see if they eventually try to tackle say Global 40, how they would try to adjust that to fit the vision of make asynchronous play easier and faster.

    As the article mentioned, they’re putting all of their focus on 1942 Second Edition. However, you should take a look at Beamdog’s track record. If A&A Online is successful, the sky could be the limit.

    Hence the “down the line” comment from me. I understand fully that A&A Online is just going to be 42SE at-launch. That’s not really anything I care about, since 42SE kind of sucks. But I will still be buying/supporting the game with the hope that A&A Online can be fleshed out into a better TripleA. Who wouldn’t want a better, official/legal TripleA? Why shouldn’t we want that?


  • @DoManMacgee Don’t forget defending submarines losing their submersible ability.
    Maybe all that ‘streamlining’ has not the biggest impact in 1942 2nd Ed., we’ll see how it plays out.

    But I am thinking a step further here: In case they ever want to adapt Global 1940 they need to remove find solutions for some more defender’s decisions, such as Kamikaze, Scramble, Interceptors.

    It is that lack of interaction with the defending player that makes it a special game for me.
    I don’t say that this ‘streamlining’ is wrong or bad, I am open for that new experience instead.
    It is just different.


  • @Panther We seem to be on slightly different wavelengths, but ultimately hoping for the same thing.

    I program for a living (although nowhere near the video game industry) so I understand how difficult/time-consuming dealing with technical challenges/implementing rules can be. I don’t expect to have all the functionality that’s been developed piecemeal in TripleA over several years available immediately. I’m just hoping that Beamdog doesn’t stop after 42SE.

    This is a huge opportunity for A&A to have a wider audience/appeal. It would be a shame if the only version of A&A the wider gaming community knew was 42SE, that’s all.

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    @DoManMacgee @Panther The TripleA team does a great job but it’s TripleA, it’s Axis & Allies but it’s also not Axis & Allies because it’s not allowed to be. TripleA is great for the die hards, the A&A obsessed, the experts, and the soon to be experts.

    Axis & Allies Online provides accessibility for a much wider audience, which also includes TripleA players. There are a lot of folks out there who have not played a digital version of A&A since Iron Blitz. I would previous send them in the direction of TripleA and never heard back. Even when I would post to social media about TripleA, there was a lot of talk but there were very few takers. With AAO, you get Steam (if you don’t already have it), send $20 and you’re up and running; it’s easy, known, and comfortable.

    Lastly, there are just not that many people here playing 1942 SE here anymore, everybody is on Global and Anniversary.


  • @djensen I fully agree. That’s why I say they complement each other, indeed!

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    @djensen

    @djensen said in Q&A with Axis & Allies Online Developers, Beamdog:

    @DoManMacgee @Panther The TripleA team does a great job but it’s TripleA, it’s Axis & Allies but it’s also not Axis & Allies because it’s not allowed to be. TripleA is great for the die hards, the A&A obsessed, the experts, and the soon to be experts.

    Axis & Allies Online provides accessibility for a much wider audience, which also includes TripleA players. There are a lot of folks out there who have not played a digital version of A&A since Iron Blitz. I would previous send them in the direction of TripleA and never heard back. Even when I would post to social media about TripleA, there was a lot of talk but there were very few takers. With AAO, you get Steam (if you don’t already have it), send $20 and you’re up and running; it’s easy, known, and comfortable.

    Lastly, there are just not that many people here playing 1942 SE here anymore, everybody is on Global and Anniversary.

    Then why is the marketing/interviewing portraying this game as (paraphrasing here) an “Axis & Allies Game for Axis & Allies Fans, By Axis & Allies Fans” instead of “A New Way to Bring New Fans Into Axis & Allies and Bring Past Fans Back to the Game they Loved”?

    If that level of honesty was provided, with a hint of more to come if the initial product were successful, I think the support would be more uniform among the community.

    There are reasons people don’t play 42SE, and it’s not only because AA50 and G40 are bigger/more involved. Balancing is certainly a key issue and Beamdog seems to be willfully ignoring it for now. to their credit though, they are taking feedback and I imagine if enough of us speak out during Early Access something can be done to address things.


  • @DoManMacgee We’re fully honest. From the interview: “1942 2nd Edition provided us with a fantastic jumping off point in terms of creating a game that provided a lot of depth and complexity, but still approachable for new and experienced players alike. One of the main goals with Axis & Allies Online was to make a game that was approachable by any type of player, from the new and inexperienced, all the way to the veteran player who has logged hundreds of hours into the board games.”

    And we’re listening.


  • @JuliusBorisovBeamdog Whoops. Must have missed that in the interview itself. Sorry about that.

    Don’t take my (admittedly) harsh tone the wrong way. I am definitely looking forward to playing this game on release and am glad to have a representative from Beamdog on this website in communication with the (more hardcore) fans.

    As I mentioned in an earlier post, I fully understand what this game is for the time being. I’m just expressing hope that this game becomes a starting point for something bigger instead of just a one-off deal. A hope I’m sure you and your team share as well.

    Looking forward to getting in the Early Access when the time comes.


  • When you add in the possibility of the transport carrying an Anti Aircraft Artillery and attempting an amphibious assault and the other unit dying in the assault, the AAA cannot win the combat, creating a complex rules scenario. The joy of written rules and exceptions is they can be easily interpreted by people when playing the board game.

    Is @Krieghund, or anyone else the like that knows the rules, not involved in this project?

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    @Cernel I’ll give you my impression of what is meant here.

    First, a human easily read and interpret the rules usually correctly. I know there’s a lot of Q&A around certain rules but once you kinda get the gist, you can figure out how to handle all the corner cases relatively easily. This is a lot more difficult to put into software or a game.

    Second, for the less experienced players of A&A, how to you create a user experience to “explain” and enforce these corner cases so that it is as or more simple than a face-to-face gamer opening the rule book?

    After talking with Beamdog and Trent, they know the rules. But if they missed something and it’s not already on the to do list, that’s what Early Access is for. Also keep in mind that knowing all the rules and catching those corner cases in software are two different things; the rule book is good for people but a terrible great software specification :wink: .


  • I was wondering if this developer was working on bringing the game to tablets, especially iOS. That would definitely give us something that TripleA does not.

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    @mvk20 According to all the information we have now, we don’t know, and they would probably answer something like, “not at this time.” All I do know is that they’re busy trying to get the Steam version out for Early Access.

    However, if you think about the following, you can draw your own conclusions:

    1. Beamdog is super excited about this game and in it for the long haul and
    2. Look at what Beamdog has done and is doing with Baldur’s Gate and the other classic D&D video games. The D&D games are on Steam, iOS, Android, and now they’re working on console versions.

    I think we’re all super excited so we’re extrapolating all the possibilities of what the future could hold and I think that’s great. However, software just can’t be built at the speed of thought. 😁 So it has to be one step at a time.

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    I don’t really like the screen shots from what I’ve seen of AAO. Triplea has board game pieces that better resemble live 3d game pieces (tanks, artillery, infantry, planes, ships…ect). The AAO pieces look chits (round colored circles?). Tripleas’ Global 1940 online board is very well created and the pieces look very similar to my table top. To me, the game has to be pleasing to the eye in order to stare at it for several hours.


  • @Ichabod Look again. There are two views: the zoomed out view and the zoomed in view.

    The zoomed out view has the chits and the zoomed in view has the 3D pieces.

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