19L axis-dominion (+4) vs KILL!!! (allies) bm3

Thanks for the game, fellas!

@aequitas-et-veritas

Thanks for being a good sport and an interesting game.

@panther thanks, I´ll try it

I’m reviewing all Vichy rules available out there, as I plan to make a unique mod, because I like historical realism and simplicity, with minimized luck of dice, and some “asymmetric balance”.

Some major points I’ve posted elsewhere in the forum:

The main issue for this expansion is how to develop French neutrality, while at the same time providing a bonus to Germany. Apparently ignored by most players, in real life (IRL), Germany economically exploited Vichy, which had to richly sustain 300,000 German troops stationed in Northern France. Therefore, in the game, it only makes total sense that Germany gets the 3 IPCs from Vichy Southern France.

Another related major issue is what to do with French colonies in terms of neutrality/occupation and IPC flows. I agree that the Vichy setup should reflect what happened IRL: North Africa, Syria, and Indochina go to Vichy, while other French colonies stay Free. However, it messes up Italy’s incursions into North Africa (as IRL, Hitler denied French colonies to Italy). I’m not sure yet as to the best approach to subjecting these colonies to invasion, occupation, and who gains IPCs (other than agreeing that Japan has easy access “rights” over Vichy Indochina), and also remote units…

Germany never fought Vichy. IRL, with Operation Torch, Germany simply occupied Vichy in 1942, with no resistance whatsoever. Vichy units were disbanded. That can be also the case in the game. Just remove Vichy units.

The uncertainty surrounding local pre-battles is quite interesting (will Vichy troops welcome or resist Allies in North Africa?..). However, I’d try to minimize dice randomness that is often used to decide some outcome. IRL, Vichy troops (just like Italians) surrendered as soon as seeing enemy superiority: thus, in the game, if Allies send more land + air units than defending Vichy units, then there should be no battle but quick surrender. Or, make it highly unlikely that a battle would ensue (for example, need to roll a 1).

I’m now working on my own house rules, for an expansion (HBG lingo) that is quite realistic, fun yet simple. If anyone is interested, let me know and I’ll be happy to share my rules when ready…

phd_angel@yahoo.com

Chicago, December 2020

@axis-dominion said in 19L axis-dominion vs majikforce (allies) bm3:

hey, I need to say gg. I’m not able to commit anymore, so I am committing A&A suicide. I appreciate the games we’ve played!

No problem. It has been a pleasure trying to crack the win column against you. You are a hell of a player and a gentlemen. I hope all goes well for you and if you ever find time to play again give me a shout. I’m always up for some mental gymnastics. Be well and take care.

PS: I will take not this as a win in the standings as it is life circumstance concede. Id rather have the kind of concede where I twist your arm until you scream uncle. Although I doubt that would ever happen.:relaxed:

@axis-dominion

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@axis-dominion said in 19L axis-dominion vs majikforce (allies) bm3:

@majikforce if you want, I can go axis again. give you another chance to redeem your allies ;)

LOL! Let’s see if I qualify as insane. Doing the same thing over again expecting a different result. I’m down! Fire it up!

@lebowsky I agree, this is a lost cause. germany will soon corner and destroy your Russian forces in scand. and will overtake the Middle East. hard to stop the euro axis powers at this point. and Japan is strong in its own right. gg

go ahead and start the next one up as axis. we can make it a 2019 if you wish, and go at whatever pace you find comfortable.