• precisely switch, it would require a south african complex which pulls away from europe (hence the “sub obtimal” diagnosis)
    if i pull uk again this weekend i am going to try it (the fleet down by madagascar and only hitting the jap sub with one sub, no fig)


  • Maybe an Australian complex wouldn’t be that bad in the UK strategy you’re talking about?
    Good for having ships and planes and good options to go island hopping soon after…
    right?


  • since most go for a KGF strat it seems that a IC in Aust. would be nothing more than a waste of IPCs.  If you have found a way to go for Japan first, I would say you have to have one in Aust.


  • @Axel:

    Maybe an Australian complex wouldn’t be that bad in the UK strategy you’re talking about?
    Good for having ships and planes and good options to go island hopping soon after…
    right?

    why have Japan spend a turn and go kill you down there. I usually leave Australia alone when I’m playing Japan because its a little out of the way from my strategy, but if my opponet ever put an IC down there I can guarntee that would be 3 IPC’s Brittain wouldn’t be collecting for the rest of the game. And at what cost is this to the effort against germany? Your’re spending 15ipcs and whatever you plan to purchase in Naval and land units to justify the build of the IC in the first place. That is going to end up being quite alot of economy not going into a vital place. Japan can see it coming and react quickly to this move in my opinion. The only place I would consider a factory with the UK is Egypt.


  • In addition to the drain on the UK economy facing Germany, there is another factor as well…

    In order for the Australian IC to not be quickly lost, the US is going to have to spend a pretty significant amount of IPC’s on naval, AF, and even land forces to be sent to the South Pacific to help protect that IC.

    Pulling half of UK’s resources off of Germany, and probably half or more of the US forces off Germany means that Russia is in deep Kimchee.

    And Germany being able to nearly ignore UK and US for even a couple of rounds will MORE than make up for the minor easing of pressure on Russia’s eastern borders while Japan diverts forces to Australia.

    Russia cannot stand alone against Germany.


  • @ncscswitch:

    In addition to the drain on the UK economy facing Germany, there is another factor as well…

    In order for the Australian IC to not be quickly lost, the US is going to have to spend a pretty significant amount of IPC’s on naval, AF, and even land forces to be sent to the South Pacific to help protect that IC.

    Pulling half of UK’s resources off of Germany, and probably half or more of the US forces off Germany means that Russia is in deep Kimchee.Â

    And Germany being able to nearly ignore UK and US for even a couple of rounds will MORE than make up for the minor easing of pressure on Russia’s eastern borders while Japan diverts forces to Australia.

    Russia cannot stand alone against Germany.

    exactly…if my opponet ever tried this strategy against me, I’d be very, very happy as the German player


  • I NEVER said that building an IC in Australia is a good thing to do!!!

    I was only giving critmonster another option than building an IC in South Africa…
    And he told so, too: this is only a SUBoptimal strategy!
    so, why bother building one in South Africa or Australia?
    these strategies are not near as good as the one and only strategy everyone believes to be the best: KGF!

    nonetheless, when I play guys who have played before, I would not build an IC in Australia.
    But for reasons of FUN, I would like to try it once and see how it develops, this however is only possible with a newbie :-)


  • i used to build aussie complexes in classic to harass the japs in a kjf strategy, it was fun and more challenging to be sure.

    our last game we used NA’s and i got colonial garrison and placed it in south africa.  i was able to secure africa without usa helping but could not stem the japanese tide effectively in persia, will need to rethink, ESPECIALLY if not given a free complex.  this is obviously sub-optimal as i stated earlier, but the idea is FUN not ego with our group


  • thx for the backup, critmonster


  • :wink:

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