Southern France

@The:

@calvinhobbesliker:

@marechallannes:

1 tac bomber is minimum for an G1 attack on france.

Yes, Italy took france, but Germany lost too much ground forces and misses 17 french IPC’s.

Not really. He transported an inf and tank from Albania to North Italy and then moved them to France, which is illegal. Thus, I redoed the battle without the inf and tank, and am awaiting his decision on whether to continue

I did not realise this and I will re-do the battle.

I already redid the first round. Feel free to use your 2 transports to invade other areas if you wish

@Gargantua:

@Marshmallow:

but again my perspective on Sea Lion is that an early Sea Lion is a losing move under most circumstances.

Marsh

Im glad to see that your perspective has upgraded from �always a losing move� to �a losing move under most circumstances�. 🙂

I look forward to the day it evolves again to �under SOME circumstances� 🙂

:roll: :evil: 😄

The game in Seattle was very instructive.

I liked that system too Knp.

I say Germany always because Germany is your powerhouse as far as income, and the more income you can bring in for Germany the better chance you have of taking Russia since you can spend more, while I do like to bring an Italian Force into Russia this force is there to support the German force, take the first hits in counter attacks and keep my German units around much longer, Southern France also allows the Germans to build their own fleet to transport units to africa which can give you a big boost and can usually bring an Axis victory in the Med.

@techroll42:

Total noob. Not even trying for France? What did he do, hit Russia G1?

Lol. I had to declare war on Germany.

As the Germans another fun little trick is use the transports you start with to land in lenningrad and take it very easily on G2 and maybe even G1.

Late reply… have been out of this forum for a while.

But… I won a game last summer with the French African and French UK + French FTR help.

This is how it went …

US3  - 2 US TR to Morocco picked up the 3 French Inf  &  an Empty US TR accompanied it

US4 - Empty US TR picked up 2 Frenchies in UK…  (Also US 4 took W. Germany , without French)

UK4 - Built big fleet in Liverpool ( W. UK Side)… and had total of 2 FTRs and 1 Tac Bomber, did not augment US in W. Germany…per plan…(Denmark was Axis … and empty)…

Italy 4 - Took W. Germany back… with 2 Inf remaining

France 4!! - Took Denmark with 2 Inf (1 TR)… and Took W.Germany with 1 Inf remaining  ( 2 Inf + FTR against 2 Italians)… This was the big gamble…!

Germany 5 - Took back W. Germany…

US5 - Hit Germany with everything - Kamikaze of US planes, to create space for UK planes next wave… Empty US CVs go and park next to Germany…

UK5!!! - Takes Germany… All planes from London airbase can land on US CVs…

Germany resigns

What I like, for turn order, is the following:

Germany
Russia
Japan
United States
China (order is important rarely, but kill the issue NOW)
Italy
United Kingdom (all one power)
Australia/France

To solve the Italian issue with fleet deals:
-1 Destroyer Italian
-1 Transport Italian
-1 Submarine Italian
Move Alexandrian fleet to Suez Canal (east of Egypt, not north)
Move the Gibraltan fleet to SZ 91
Move the French fleet to SZ 87

This ends the threat to the British fleet by an early Italy move, saves the Italian fleet so they are a threat to Africa, and does not suicide the French fleet for no real game purpose.  The fleets can still engage, the British/French can always move into the Med if they want (but Italy should get one round of the NO) and Italy being down a transport can stop it, but cannot take all of N. Africa (for instance) they’re moves are limited other ways.

Also, this kills the whole issue with a dead nation having a turn of their own.  Just dump them on the Australian player as a semi-useless nation (they have units left, but no purchases/builds) so you are not holding up an entire game JUST so France can say “nah, I don’t want to do anything.”