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scramble in holland ? factor in that i could also include the bombardment

@GeneralDisarray I kill a destroyer and a sub

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 7 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 3 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 carrier and 2 destroyers moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 33 Sea Zone 3 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 17 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima Combat - Americans Battle in Iwo Jima Americans attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Iwo Jima Americans roll dice for 1 artillery in Iwo Jima, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery in Iwo Jima, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery in Iwo Jima, round 7 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 7 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Iwo Jima Americans win, taking Iwo Jima from Japanese with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 armour, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 3 transports moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 4 fighters moved from Eastern United States to 91 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 3 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone 2 fighters placed in Western United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 51 PUs; end with 51 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 56 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 66 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Chahar 1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar 2 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow 1 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Shensi to Sikang 1 fighter moved from Shensi to Sikang 1 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan Combat - Chinese Battle in Kweichow Chinese attack with 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kweichow Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kweichow Chinese win, taking Kweichow from Japanese with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Chahar Chinese attack with 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in Szechwan Chinese attack with 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Szechwan Chinese win, taking Szechwan from Japanese with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Sikang Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Sikang, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Sikang, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Sikang Chinese win, taking Sikang from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Sikang to Shensi Place Units - Chinese 2 infantry placed in Shensi Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 10 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 6 artilleries, 1 fighter and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Suriname to French Guiana British take French Guiana from Neutral_Axis 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Volgograd 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Volgograd Combat - British Battle in 109 Sea Zone British attack with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters Germans defend with 1 submarine British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 109 Sea Zone British win, taking 109 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Battle in Volgograd British attack with 5 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 2 mech_infantrys British roll dice for 5 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in Volgograd, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 3.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys in Volgograd, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Volgograd 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd British win with 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for British: 1 fighter Casualties for Germans: 2 mech_infantrys Non Combat Move - British 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Volgograd to Northwest Persia 7 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq 5 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 mech_infantry moved from Libya to Alexandria 1 fighter moved from Persia to Iraq 5 mech_infantrys moved from West India to Persia 3 aaGuns and 19 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco 2 fighters moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 6 submarines moved from 94 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 4 fighters moved from 94 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone Place Units - British 3 artilleries placed in Egypt 3 artilleries placed in Iraq 1 submarine placed in 109 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUs Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 1.00 Americans regular : -2.00 Japanese regular : 0.33 Germans regular : -0.17 British regular : 1.83

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 fighter moved from Queensland to Caroline Islands 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 fighter moved from Queensland to Caroline Islands Combat - Americans Battle in Caroline Islands Americans attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry Japanese roll AA dice in Caroline Islands : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun and 2 infantry in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in Caroline Islands Americans win, taking Caroline Islands from Japanese with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11 Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun and 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 carrier and 2 destroyers moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Morocco to Malta 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern United States to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 carrier, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Morocco 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States 1 fighter moved from Wake Island to Guam 1 fighter moved from Wake Island to Queensland Place Units - Americans 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States 1 infantry placed in Western United States 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States 2 fighters placed in Western United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 60 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open Chinese buy 3 artilleries; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 2 infantry moved from Szechwan to Kweichow 1 fighter moved from Shensi to Kweichow Combat - Chinese Battle in Kweichow Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kweichow Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kweichow 1 fighter owned by the Chinese retreated Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Szechwan 2 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan 2 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan Place Units - Chinese 3 artilleries placed in Szechwan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 7 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 10 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British Non Combat Move - British 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to India 1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia British take Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 armour moved from Ethiopia to Egypt 1 transport moved from 76 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo 1 mech_infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo 2 fighters moved from Union of South Africa to Egypt 1 cruiser moved from 76 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Malta to Egypt 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Quebec 1 armour, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar Place Units - British 1 fighter placed in United Kingdom 1 transport placed in 106 Sea Zone 1 factory_minor placed in Egypt 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Union of South Africa Turn Complete - British British collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 34 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 artillery and 5 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 42 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,5 UK_Pacific collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery and 5 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -1.50 Americans regular : -0.67 Japanese regular : 0.67 Japanese AA : -0.33

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 14

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 14 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters, 4 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 mech_infantry moved from Amur to Siberia Japanese take Siberia from Russians 1 armour moved from Kansu to Timguska Japanese take Timguska from Russians 1 armour moved from Timguska to Kansu 1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Kazakhstan Japanese take Kazakhstan from Russians 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Philippines to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Philippines to Shan State 1 bomber moved from Philippines to Yunnan 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Yunnan Combat - Japanese Battle in 46 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter Americans defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 46 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Americans: 1 transport Battle in 45 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 45 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 2 infantry Battle in Shan State Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Shan State, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 mech_infantry moved from Jehol to Amur 1 bomber moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 bomber moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 mech_infantry moved from Sikang to Volgograd 1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu 1 infantry moved from Shensi to Tsinghai 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Sikang 1 mech_infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan 1 mech_infantry moved from Shantung to Chahar 1 mech_infantry moved from Jehol to Amur 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Shensi 1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Szechwan 2 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 marine moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 1 fighter moved from 45 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 46 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Japan to Philippines 1 artillery moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 1 bomber moved from Philippines to Japan 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 2 artilleries moved from Kansu to Shensi 1 mech_infantry moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan 1 mech_infantry moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kansu to Kweichow 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to French Indo China 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Philippines Place Units - Japanese 1 factory_minor placed in Malaya 1 destroyer placed in 36 Sea Zone 2 infantry placed in French Indo China 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Shantung 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Japan 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 67 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 35 Sea Zone: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Java: 1 fighter EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Japan: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Philippines: 1 fighter EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Philippines: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 35 Sea Zone: 1 fighter EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0.33 Japanese regular : -0.33 UK_Pacific regular : 0.67

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Sorry about delay, you are next even if Adam moves fast again, I’ll do this one first