New ideas for support & badges


  • SFO Founder TripleA Admin

    With the migration to Discourse, badges will be built in but they work a little differently.

    • You won’t see all your badges whenever you post.
    • It seems like you can choose certain badges to be your “title” on your posts
    • Patrons can be assign to a special group which will display a special icon on the avatar
    • Profile pages will list all of the badges you have
    • Some badges are assigned based on activity, kinda like the Infantry, Artillery, Tank, levels. But also for length of time on the boards and doing other random, fun stuff

    I also did some math. If you take all the contributions and divide it by the contributors, the amount per person is roughly $27.

    For 2018, I’m considering having one level for $27. When you contribute, it lasts for 1 year from the date that you subscribe. When you renew, you’ll get 1 new badge for the year in which you contributed. So, if I renew right now, I would get the current tank in my badge list and the title of Patron until November of 2018. If I don’t resubscribe, I keep the badge, of course, but my patron title goes away. Actually, I think the patron title would be replaced by Legacy Patron or Past Patron or something like that.

    Also, patrons would get zero dynamic ads. E.g., banner ads from Google, eBay, Amazon, etc. The static ads from the sponsors and others (like War Room) would stick around.

    Questions:

    Would the bronze level folks be willing to renew at $27 USD, or so?

    As a Gold Patron, how does this make you feel?

    Any other feedback or concerns?

    The objective is to make this less of an accounting nightmare and make it the same for everybody


  • 2017 '16 '15

    I have a gold and a silver and was gonna get a bronze this year and then cycle back to gold again. If $27 is what is then I’ll do that. No biggie to me but making it 27 only seems as if the overall total would fall imo. It’s bound to run a few bronze contributors off. How much do they count towards the total ? Maybe make it an even 30 if you want one number. It’d bring a couple extra bucks to offset the bronze only crowd

    Not sure how the accounting works but would think a minimum of ten bucks and let people donate as much as they want would bring in the most dough. If that’s the goal


  • 2020 2019 2018 2017 '16 '15 '14 Customizer '13 '12 '11 '10

    The proposed uniform-cost system would certainly be less of an accounting nightmare from djensen’s point of view (and I can see the point of that), but I’m wondering if the trade-off would be less money being contributed.  The uniform-cost system would limit downward the potential contributions of people who are willing and able to pay more (thus resulting in an income loss), and it would put people who are currently at the lower end of the contribution spectrum into the position of choosing to either raise their contributions or discontinue them (with the latter choice also resulting in an income loss).


  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    I’ll be dreadfully honest. If dreadfully unpopular.

    I’m not looking forward to any changes.

    Whilst I’ll manage myself, many of our best users (more than 50% I would say) are not tech savvy individuals.  They will struggle with any changes, and any new systems or presentation of information and I suspect we will lose some whilst gaining little with a different forum system.  There is a ridiculously high percentage of users here for example who still don’t even own smart phones.  They will suffer.  Why are we doing this exactly?

    I also think the $27 will reduce revenue… but I don’t know what’s preventing the current system from being maintained; or why 3 types of patrons can’t be established? Why are we as a community being upgraded to have less features? That doesn’t make sense.  Guys have worked for YEARS here to build up thier badges and now they can only display one 😞

    As for accounting - I don’t think it’s a big accounting issue because it’s just cash flow into a PayPal account.


  • 2020 2019 2018 2017 '16

    As a techno-dinosaur I am unable to judge the need to change, and am among the group that will struggle with any challenges that change might throw up for me, as Garg highlights. Nevertheless, I must rely on the judgement of the techies as to whether the benefits of a change are sufficient.

    As a gold patron the proposed system will save me money and I am always in favour of that! But it seems daft to deny those that have been prepared to contribute more in the past the opportunity to continue to do so. Especially if that is merely to simplify the admin. Instead - improve the admin!

    I am not at all concerned about losing the ability to strut my stuff with multiple badges (well only 2 but it is a start!) and sparkly gold ones at that.

    It is the bronze patrons you really need to hear from as their willingness to increase their contribution is key.


  • 2020 2019 2018 2017 '16 '15 '14 Customizer '13

    I got nothing against anybody and this aint to start any wars but if the people that come here all the time that don’t ever donate donated 10 dollars your 27 dollar proposal would drop. IMO

    I have donated for years now to give back the thanks for all the info and answers that I’ve gotten over the years.

    I’m having a problem donating after this year do to a few members that have never donated to site tell me as long as I and other people keep donating to site they will keep coming here for there free answers and info.   :?


  • SFO Founder TripleA Admin

    @Gargantua:

    I also think the $27 will reduce revenue… but I don’t know what’s preventing the current system from being maintained; or why 3 types of patrons can’t be established? Why are we as a community being upgraded to have less features? That doesn’t make sense.  Guys have worked for YEARS here to build up thier badges and now they can only display one 😞

    As for accounting - I don’t think it’s a big accounting issue because it’s just cash flow into a PayPal account.

    The cash accounting isn’t the issue, it’s the manual work that has to be done on the forums to assign badges to people. It’s not terrible yet but if we get many more contributors it could be an issue.


    I’ll be dreadfully honest. If dreadfully unpopular.

    I’m not looking forward to any changes.

    Whilst I’ll manage myself, many of our best users (more than 50% I would say) are not tech savvy individuals.  They will struggle with any changes, and any new systems or presentation of information and I suspect we will lose some whilst gaining little with a different forum system.  There is a ridiculously high percentage of users here for example who still don’t even own smart phones.  They will suffer.  Why are we doing this exactlyl?

    I’ll create a new thread for this. There’s a myriad of reasons.


  • 2017

    Let me preface this by noting that I only just sent in support for the first time today (didn’t earn a living wage until recently  :lol:) and this thread reminded me to donate.

    That being said, I would suggest that those substantial past contributions get some kind of special recognition if at all possible.

    Perhaps the Patron titles you referred to could be more like the post-count ranks, for example:

    Over $500 in past support = Supreme Allied Commander
    Over $300 in past support = Field Marshall
    Over $250 in past support = General
    etc.
    etc.

    I don’t know what the tiers or cutoffs would be make sense, or if that’s even a feasible idea.


  • 2017 '16 '15 '14 '12

    I would just like to see a BIG thing to click on the home page that says

    PLAY GAMES HERE

    and then new people click it, read the triplea how to guide, and start playing online


  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    @wheatbeer:

    Let me preface this by noting that I only just sent in support for the first time today (didn’t earn a living wage until recently  :lol:) and this thread reminded me to donate.

    That being said, but I would suggest that those substantial past contributions get some kind of special recognition if at all possible.

    Perhaps the Patron titles you referred to could be more like the post-count ranks, for example:

    Over $500 in past support = Supreme Allied Commander
    Over $300 in past support = Field Marshall
    Over $250 in past support = General
    etc.
    etc.

    I don’t know what the tiers or cutoffs would be make sense, or if that’s even a feasible idea.

    This will draw significant revenue


  • 2020 2019 2018 2017

    I would like to throw in my vote for maintaining the different levels of badges. I think that having lower and high tiers of support is a good thing. If the prices of the tiers need to rise due to increasing costs, to me that’s a separate issue from removing the badges in the first place.

    When I get a bonus due to me I am going to put my money where my mouth is and put down for a gold level sponsor badge for the site. I’d like to be able to do that next year as well.

    -Midnight_Reaper


  • SFO Founder TripleA Admin

    I think I can figure out a way to keep the existing levels.

    Thanks for all of the feedback everybody!


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