• Ok, so from my understanding of it, CAP is:

    A way to engage an enemy fleet (Submarines included) moving through a Sea-Zone that you currently do not occupy with a Friendly fleet.

    Based on the CAP movement requirements, this then allows you to scramble other Aircraft into the fight.

    It also rolls if any submarines in its zone attempt Convoy Raiding.

    –-

    Aircraft force 1 round of combat with Submarines, who can then choose to submerge for the rest of combat if they survive round 1.


    Conquered Capitals do not transfer their Bank to the Conqueror.


    If those are the ‘answers’, then I think I understand it all better!


  • Yes and if also if an aircraft carrier is in the battle then the sub can not submerge. and it is also a modifier on a whatever line it is on Cap. so for example If you have a destroyer on Escort duty in the line off Gibraltar. Which would give those lines a +1 but off England you have a plane on Cap which charges whatever lines bisect the Convoy raiding lines. So for example that line from Gibraltar to England would have a + 3 modifier, the line from Canada to England would have a + 2 modifier etc etc. you can only have 1 unit on convoy escort duty per zone, but if there are a lot of zones you can obvious increase the modifier. Ill have to find that link as well.


  • Hi hi, I imagine many of these questions where already answered. I’m very busy in my personal and work life so this thread is largely unread to me, I perused briefly the messages and gathered at least a few answers have been teased forth.  I thought I would weigh in even though I am late to the show.

    Cheers

    @PanzerPenguin:

    I have this all nicely formatted in a g-doc so lets see what happens when I post it here.
    1)Capitals
    1a) Does Nationalist China have a Capital? There is a ‘star’ in Beijing, which is a Warlord until the modifiers are met that turn Shanxi into the KMT.
    1b) If the Japanese capture it, do they get Nationalist Bank?
    1c) When the CCP Territory is captured, does the Capturer take its Bank?

    1a) China does not have as a minor Nation. Once it achieves the status of Major Nation, Beijing becomes the Capital, and functions as other Capitals do to other nations.
    1b) Unlike in G40, it is impossible to capture bank in GW36.
    1c) Unlike in G40, it is impossible to capture bank in GW36.

    2)Aircraft vs Submarines
    2a) Do all Aircraft �Spot� Submarines?
    2b) Does the presence of Aircraft in combat prevent Submarines from submerging?
    2c) Are lone Submarines (no friendly surface ships) insta-killed by Aircraft (CAP or Carried-based Aircraft)?

    2a) Yes. If an airplane is capable of CAP, it can spot submarines.
    2b) I believe someone has answered this question.
    2c) If the CAP spots the sub, rolls and misses, the Submarine can then submerge.

    3)Combat Air Patrol
    3a) How exactly does Combat Air Patrol Work?
    3b) Does the presence of CAP instigate combat with fleet/submarine moving into its Sea Zone?
    3c) How does CAP work with Convoy raiding? Logic suggests you do not Convoy Raid a Sea Zone with CAP.
    Is there a limit to how many aircraft are on CAP in one zone (IE. One Ship on Patrol in each Sea Zone)

    3a) Ho dang,
    3b) Yes indeed it does. I believe it also would trigger a scramble from any adjacent Airbase.
    3c) CAP cannot Convoy Raid only Convoy Escort. Any number of aircraft can be placed in CAP in one Sea Zone (on one CAP token), but the benefits to Convoy Escort is only once (from the CAP token). Even if unstated, I imagine that that is reasonable gameplay logic behind the design of both CAP and Convoy Escort.


  • Thanks.

    One final question - Does Belgium touch Lorraine? IE can you attack Lorraine from Belgium. We’re split on this as and can’t really tell based on the map.


  • @PanzerPenguin:

    Thanks.

    One final question - Does Belgium touch Lorraine? IE can you attack Lorraine from Belgium. We’re split on this as and can’t really tell based on the map.

    That’s completely fine, you can ask as many questions as you can think of.

    In other cases where similar map issues have come up, such as on the border between France and Spain, or in a few sea zones in the pacific, the ruling has always been: no, they are not connected.
    By offsetting most sea zones or territories slightly one from another, they avoid this problem, and we see them do so in nearly all sea zones, so when the issue does come up, it is by design.

    Belgium is not connected to Lorraine.
    I have seen some games house rule that since Luxembourg is so small, they play it is part of Belgium, thereby making it accessible to Lorraine.


  • A heated debate in my group regarding the Commonwealth…

    Can ANZAC send lend-lease to KMT via Hong Kong once Japan invades China?

    On a side note, can the US (or other countries) also send lend-lease to KMT through Hong Kong when Japan is at war with China (but no one else)?


  • So I am not sure what map you guys have but I have a star on Nanking and not Beijing. I have been playing it where China loses its money once Nanking is taken. After seeing a few of the replies here I will probably change how I play that…


  • @PanzerPenguin:

    Can ANZAC send lend-lease to KMT via Hong Kong once Japan invades China?
    On a side note, can the US (or other countries) also send lend-lease to KMT through Hong Kong when Japan is at war with China (but no one else)?

    As there is a railroad that leads from Hong Kong to Guangxi, why not?
    It is the same as the Burma Road that leads to Yunnan.

    Note that ANZAC is considered a part of the UK, so only one (UK, FEC or ANZAC) can lend lease per turn#


  • @KingKuba:

    So I am not sure what map you guys have but I have a star on Nanking and not Beijing. I have been playing it where China loses its money once Nanking is taken. After seeing a few of the replies here I will probably change how I play that…

    Nowhere in the manual does it say that a nation loses its money once the capitol is taken.
    The designer has clarified this elsewhere.


  • @KingKuba:

    So I am not sure what map you guys have but I have a star on Nanking and not Beijing. I have been playing it where China loses its money once Nanking is taken. After seeing a few of the replies here I will probably change how I play that…

    I don’t have the map in front of me. It could be in either territory, I don’t recall. Regardless, it’s functioning as a capital is only when it is a major power. 😊


  • @PanzerPenguin:

    A heated debate in my group regarding the Commonwealth…

    Can ANZAC send lend-lease to KMT via Hong Kong once Japan invades China?

    On a side note, can the US (or other countries) also send lend-lease to KMT through Hong Kong when Japan is at war with China (but no one else)?

    After extensive searching, I think the answer is no to both questions.

    Page 71 of the rules, FEC, “…you are the only lifeline China has to the Outside World…you control both Burma and Hong Kong…slip the Chinese a little money to ensure their survival.”


  • Because FEC and ANZAC are Military Divisions of Great Britain (Forming the Commonwealth) and share Technology and Lend/Lease Restrictions, we have determined that they can Lend/Lease through Hong Kong. Otherwise, the three would be split and not share Tech/Restrictions etc.

    We are undecided on USA lendlease through Hong Kong. However, it clearly states that Germany/Italy can lend-lease through France to Spain (if France allows it) so why can this not apply to USA to KMT via Hong Kong? It meets the factory-to-port/port-to-port/rail-to-territory requirement?

    The only instance I have determined where you take a country’s bank is when Paris surrenders to the Germans :

    “Free France: The French player creates Free France by
    moving the capital as detailed on the French National Reference
    Sheet. All IPP currently in possession of the French player are
    surrendered to the Axis.”


  • To Munck, rule 9.20 on page 48 I believe says that, “A nation that loses its capital loses all of its saved IPPs (even if it does not technically surrender). Some nations can set up a second capital.” For sure you do not give your IPPs to the conquering nation except in the case of Germany forcing France to surrender, you just lose the IPPs to the bank once your capital is taken.


  • ï‚· Burma Road: The Burma road opens on July 1938 if Japan and China are at war and Yunnan is in Possession of the Allies.  The Burma Road may be used as a way to deliver foreign lend-lease material to the KMT once KMT is at war with a major power.  The lend lease arrives in Yunnan.  China may use its own money to purchase artillery and antiaircraft.  These must be placed in Yunnan.  This part that say’s " The lend lease arrives in Yunnan" means that any and all lend lease is and has to arrive in Yunnan. These are specific rules to China’s KMT and any regular game rules on lend lease do not apply because these rules are only specific to  China’s KMT . Doesn’t matter that Hong Kong is closer etc etc.


  • @Whitshadw:

     Burma Road: The Burma road opens on July 1938 if Japan and China are at war and Yunnan is in Possession of the Allies.   The Burma Road may be used as a way to deliver foreign lend-lease material to the KMT once KMT is at war with a major power.  The lend lease arrives in Yunnan.   China may use its own money to purchase artillery and antiaircraft.  These must be placed in Yunnan.  This part that say’s " The lend lease arrives in Yunnan" means that any and all lend lease is and has to arrive in Yunnan. These are specific rules to China’s KMT and any regular game rules on lend lease do not apply because these rules are only specific to  China’s KMT . Doesn’t matter that Hong Kong is closer etc etc.

    The part you refer to is only if using The Burma Road to deliver Lend Lease. You may also use any other mean available to deliver Lend Lease to KMT.


  • I am referring to prior to the Burma Road opening, with Hong Kong being the only available port for Lend Lease to be sent to the KMT (the actual KMT ports having been taken by the Japanese).


  • I don’t see how that can be allowed if Japan is at war with only China? and you wanna lend lease troops to China VIA. going into Hong Kong? While the FEC are still " Neutral" to Japan? I don’t see how that can be allowed to have foreign units " placed on neutral soil"  I don’t think you can lend lease on behalf of another nation and take it into their port while remaining neutral.  If prior to the " opening of the Burma road" and China is invaded some time before July 38 Then KMT has whatever ports made available to them. That is there own  ports.

  • '17

    @PanzerPenguin:

    I am referring to prior to the Burma Road opening, with Hong Kong being the only available port for Lend Lease to be sent to the KMT (the actual KMT ports having been taken by the Japanese).

    I agree that this should be possible.
    Burma road lend lease, occurs regardless of FEC war status, including lend lease from US via burma road while US not at full income yet. China at war with a major power the only requirement for British or US to send lend lease to it. Dont need to be aligned.
    If one is allowed both should be allowed. Situation is the same.

    This is one of artifical historical mirrorings that over scripts the game if you don’t allow it. History is interesting but the whole point of these games is to see how YOU would try to change history.


  • From the rules:
    Lend-Lease: A system by which Major Powers may lend IPPs and units to other nations who are at war without the lender necessarily being at war themselves.

    From the USA Country Card:
    Can Lend-Lease to:                  Answer:
    China KMT                              Once KMT is at war with a Major Power.
    Britain / France                        At 15 IPP
    USSR                                      Once the USSR is at war with the Axis.

    From the rules Page 69 (talking about Spanish Nationalist Tips):
    The French may allow the Germans to use their rails for lend-lease units.

    So, deduction - The US may Lend-Lease to KMT via the port in Hong Kong once Japan invades China.
    The Commonwealth (IE Anzac) may Lend-Lease to KMT via the port in Hong Kong once Japan Invades China.

    The port in Hong Kong has a rail that moves in Guangxi Clique.

    Correct me if I am wrong?


  • So - an interesting one that we’ve come across.

    When USSR and UK/USA are at war with Germany:

    Can UK/USA move troops into USSR territory?
    If Germans Occupy USSR Territory and the UK/USA ‘liberate’ it - does it go back to USSR or the ‘conquering’ Army?

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