1941 House Rules

@UncleSam0330: Regarding the Excel file, you all are certainly welcome to use it! I’ve also integrated the rules and charts into electronic versions of the original 2nd edition rulebooks but I’ve not posted those because I’m not sure if that’s OK/legal to do outside of my own private use.  :? If it is OK, I’d be happy to post those as well. I’m pretty sure it’s illegal, but OK. I mean that it’s illegal in the sense that writing Transformers fanfiction is illegal: It probably violates a copyright law, but Hasbro is never going to do anything to you because you aren’t making money off of it and they won’t waste the time and effort to sue you.

Here is a rough for the victory points on my map. It may not work with OOB rules but I’m working on two sets of rules to be used with OOB and another with extra pieces. Link for the map is here: http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=38048.0 Number axis have for allied win – historical number – number for axis to win         Europe pacific global Turn4 Jun 42 23-31-39 12-18-24 35-49-63 Turn5 Dec 42 24-32-40 12-18-24 36-50-64 Turn6 Jun 43 21-29-37 11-17-23 32-46-60 Turn7 Dec 43 15-23-31 9-15-21 24-38-52 Turn8 Jun 44 12-20-28 7-13-19 19-33-47 Turn9 Dec 44 3-11-19 3-9-15 6-20-34 Turn10 Aug 45 0-(3)-11 1-(7)-13 0-(7)-21 Over Time         Lose-win Turn11 Dec 45 0-8 0-6 0-14 Turn12 Jun 46 0-8 0-6 0-14 Turn13 Dec 46 0-8 0-6 0-14 Turn14 Jun 47 0-8 0-6 0-14 Turn15 Dec 47 0-8 0-6 0-14 Optional: Japan surrenders if they have 40 or less income after turn 9 and the factory in japan is bombed to its maximum hit points.

@MasterMark26 Glad I could share the ideas ! For the trucks, I 3D-printed some models on Shapeways and added them to my collection after painting them. Here is the link to the model in my shop : https://www.shapeways.com/product/RK9QJAH6V/wwi-truck-x12?optionId=128058468&li=shop-inventory You can see the end result on the Plastic Commando’s YT channel once he painted them (and he did a great job) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADQnU6f0gKQ There’s other options like gun-mounted trucks, which could be a hybrid mobile-artillery / AA battery, armored cars, and more ! So if you want to make things more interesting, feel free to be creative ! For your tank idea, I wonder if the increased cost would make them appealing. They sure would boost your offensive power by boosting your infantry, it’s just a question of would you be able to buy enough to make a difference. Let me know how it turns out ! Happy gaming, good sir !

Here are some HBG units that should be helpful for France when using the Cliffside Bunker split UK house rule. There are 2 types of battleships and I use the revised 2004 vessels as the cruisers, and the Nevada class vessels for battleships. Bare minimum required for Global 1940 France setup 1X AA Gun http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/5X-25lb-Artillery–Celery-Green_p_1905.html 9X Infantry http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Infantry–Celery-Green--United-Kingdom-Revised-2004_p_196.html 3X artillery http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Artillery–Celery-Green--United-Kingdom-Revised-2004_p_200.html 1X Tank http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Armored-Tank–Celery-Green--United-Kingdom-Revised-2004_p_199.html 2X Fighter http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Fighter–Celery-Green--United-Kingdom-Revised-2004_p_201.html 2X Destroyer http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Destroyer–Celery-Green--United-Kingdom-Revised-2004_p_204.html 2X Cruiser http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Battleship–Celery-Green--United-Kingdom-Revised-2004_p_203.html Full set for Global 1940 France 1X AA Gun http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/5X-25lb-Artillery–Celery-Green_p_1905.html 9X Infantry http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Infantry–Celery-Green--United-Kingdom-Revised-2004_p_196.html 3X artillery http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Artillery–Celery-Green--United-Kingdom-Revised-2004_p_200.html 1X Mech Infantry http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/5X-Sexton-SP-Artillery-Gun–Celery-Green_p_1917.html 3X Tank (1) http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Armored-Tank–Celery-Green--United-Kingdom-Revised-2004_p_199.html 3X Fighter (2) http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Fighter–Celery-Green--United-Kingdom-Revised-2004_p_201.html 1X Tac Bomber (0) http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/5X-Barracuda-Tac-Bomber–Celery-Green_p_1929.html 1X Strat Bomber (0) http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Bomber–Celery-Green--United-Kingdom-Revised-2004_p_197.html 2X Transport(0) http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Transport–Celery-Green--United-Kingdom-Revised-2004_p_205.html 2X Submarine (0) http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Submarine–Celery-Green--United-Kingdom-Revised-2004_p_198.html 2X Destroyer (2) http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Destroyer–Celery-Green--United-Kingdom-Revised-2004_p_204.html 2X Cruiser http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Battleship–Celery-Green--United-Kingdom-Revised-2004_p_203.html 1X Aircraft Carrier http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Aircraft-Carrier–Celery-Green--United-Kingdom-Revised-2004_p_202.html 1X Battleship http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/HBG-Battle-Pieces–Allied-Supplement-Set--Nevada-Class-Battleship_p_1340.html Items needed for house rule accessories Union Jack Roundels http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Custom-Roundels–Union-Jack_p_384.html Victory Tokens (8X black / 8X white) http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Rocket–V2-or-Modern-Nuke-X5_p_42.html

http://www.harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=9531 Due to the nature of the game, that more often than not results in Germany and Japan playing two different games, I had an idea for an house rule to speed up a live game. This idea requires quite few changes to the mechanics of the game, and requires at least 4 live players. The turn order is: Germany AND Japan Russia United States European Command AND United States Pacific Command UK London AND Uk Pacific Italy France AND Australia So basically, while Germany do G1, the Japanese players sets up J1 too. USA is split in two nations, in the same manner that UK is, with two different economies. The two USA commands are played by two different players, as the two UK economies are played by two different players. So for example, let’s say we’re playing a game between LARRY, KRIEG, NOLL, OZTEA and KAUF. LARRY plays GERMANY and ITALY. KRIEG plays SOVIET RUSSIA NOLL plays JAPAN OZTEA plays USA EUROPEAN COMMAND, UK LONDON, FRANCE KAUF plays USA PACIFIC COMMAND, CHINA, UK PACIFIC, ANZAC During turn1 Larry sets up G1, meanwhile Noll sets up J1. When both players are done, Krieg plays R1. After Krieg is done with R1, Oztea and Kauf plays an independant game, they both go from USA to UK turn independently. Kauf plays also ANZAC. At this point Larry plays Italy. Then Oztea plays France and a new turn starts. In order to make this work, these house rules have to be implemented: USA economies is split, but not on a map basis. European USA command has 20 IPCs income prior to war. Pacific USA command has 32 IPCs income prior to war. The regular NO are discarded, instead you get a war bonus economy like in the original game. After war is declared: European USA command has +10 IPCs income (30 Total). Pacific USA command has +20 IPCs income (52 Total). During NON-COM if USA wishes to do so, he can move units from EURO to PACIFIC map and vice-versa. These units will be in control of the other USA command starting from next turn. Same rules apply to UK. The special case of Russia: In order to avoid annoying Russian can-openers due to the turn order change, there’s a change on the relation between Japan and Russia: Russia and Japan may NOT declare war between each others unless one of these criteria are fulfilled: If there are less than 18 infantries split between the Russian Pacific territories of Amur, Sakha, Yakut, Siberia, Soviet Far East, Japan can declare war on Russia anytime. If Russia production is 50 or more IPCs, Russia can declare war on Japan anytime. If Berlin is in Allies hands, Russia can declare war on Japan anytime.

Yes, I was talking about those, I was also thinking about their role in sea battles (against Subs): Unlike fighters, they don´t need to end their move in a territory with friendly Inf, but they can move max 3 spaces away from a territory with friendly Inf If there is an Airship involved in sea battle then: Enemy submarines can not submerge and they can not surprise attack Airships roll one dice against enemy Sub, hitting it at die roll of 2.

Good action 304 Der Kuenstler’s tech system has some similarities. http://www.mediafire.com/view/o9z748zex278sfr/xsrules-6.2_ed.pdf DK’s Hybrid Axis and Allies Map and Rules Also Gargantua had a Research Facility. Similar to your setup. http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=22164.0 At one time I had a triplea mod that was based on these ideas. Sadly I don’t have it anymore due to a pc meltdown. Hopefully I’ll do it again eventually. I made the research facilities like factories where you could bomb/ them as well. Don’t remember if that’s how Gargantua did it too or not. Anyway you have some really cool ideas here 304. Some of it might be a little too far removed for basic A&A play. As you say, more Risk like. Still sounds like fun. I’ll have to go through it in more detail. Maybe incorporate some of your techs into the house rule mod. : ) Thanks for posting this

1942.2 SBR Black Elk hypothesis Strategic Bomber Attack 0 Damage 1D6, 1D6+2 Cost 5 Fighter Attack 1 Defense 2 Cost 10 Break even point StB A0 C5, 1D6+2 damage vs Fg A1 D2:  21 StBs vs 30 Fgs: 0.700 StB/Fg 1StB D6+2 vs 1Fg D2: + 3.056 - 2.222= + 0.834 IPC damage/SBR12= +10.008 1StB D6+2 vs 2Fgs D2: +2.037 - 3.148 = -1.111 IPC damage/SBR9= -9.999 (Diff.: +0.009) 21 StB vs 30 Fgs:   0.700 StB/Fg No FIT (Fighter Interception Threshold), always beneficial to Intercept. Break even point StB A0 C5, 1D6 damage vs Fg A1 D2: 17 StBs vs 15 Fgs: 1.133 StBs/Fg 1 StB D6  vs 1Fg D2: + 1.944 - 2.222 = -0.278 IPC damage/SBR13 = -3.614 2 StBs D6 vs 1Fg D2: +4.861 - 3.056= +1.805 IPCs damage/SBR2= +3.610 (Diff.: -0.004) 17 StBs vs 15 Fgs: 1.133 StBs/Fgs No FIT (Fighter Interception Threshold), always beneficial to Intercept. Down below here is a different values doing SBR for 1942.2 and G40 Strategic Bomber in air-to-air combat SBR: Attack 0 Bombard IC damage: D6 or 1D6+2 Fighter in air-to-air combat SBR: Attack 1 Defend 2 IC’s AAA: @1 against each Strategic Bomber 1942.2 SBR HRules with StB A0 and Fg A1 D1 : damage 1D6 or 1D6+2 1 Strategic Bomber doing SBR against no interceptor AAA roll = odds casualties 5/6 StB survived * 5.5 IPCs = +4.583 IPCs *3.5= +2.917 1/6 StB killed *5 IPCs = -0.833 IPCs D6: +2.917-0.833= +2.084 IPCs D6+2: + 4.583 - 0.833 = +3.750 IPCs damage/SBR 1 Strategic Bomber Att 0 doing SBR against 1 interceptor Def 2 Interceptor Fg roll/ AAA roll = odds casualties 2/66/6 = 12/36 1 StB killed by Fg 4/61/6 = 4/36 1 StB killed by AAA 4/6*5/6 = 20/36 No casualty at all. Results: Bombard on IC 20/36* ((1+2)+(6+2) IPCs)/2= +5.5 IPCs) = + 3.056 IPCs *3.5=+1.944 StB killed 16/36 *-5 IPCs = - 2.222 IPCs 1D6 vs 1D2: + 1.944 - 2.222 = -0.278 1D6+2 vs 1D2: + 3.056 - 2.222= + 0.834 IPC damage/SBR D6 vs Fg D1: + 2.431 - 1.528 = +0.903 D6+2 vs Fg D1: + 3.819 - 1.528= + 2.291 IPC damage/SBR 1 Strategic Bomber Att 0 doing SBR against 2 interceptors Def 2 Interceptors Fgs roll/ AAA roll = odds casualties 20/366/6 = 120/216 1 StB killed by Fg 16/361/6 = 16/216 1 StB killed by AAA 16/36*5/6 = 80/216 No casualty at all. Results: Bombard on IC 80/216* ((1+2)+(6+2) IPCs)/2= +5.5 IPCs) = +2.037 IPCs *3.5= +1.296 StB killed 136/216 *- 5 IPCs = -3.148 IPCs D6 vs D2: +1.296 - 3.148 =-1.852 IPCs D6+2 vs D2: +2.037 - 3.148 = -1.111 IPC damage/SBR D6 vs Fg D1: + 2.025 - 2.106 = -0.081 IPCs D6+2 vs Fg D1 : + 3.183 - 2.106 = +1.077 IPC damage/SBR 1 Fighter Att 1 and 1 Strategic Bomber Att 0 doing SBR against 2 interceptors Def 2 Fighter roll/interceptors Fgs roll/ AAA roll = odds casualties 1/64/366/6 = 24/1296 1 Fg and 1 StB killed by Fgs vs 1 Fg 1/616/361/6= 16/1296 1 Fg killed by Fg and 1 StB killed by AAA vs 1 Fg 1/616/365/6= 80/1296 1 Fg killed by Fg vs 1 Fg 1/616/361/6 = 16/1296 1 StB killed by AAA vs 1 Fg 1/616/365/6 = 80/1296 No casualty vs 1 Fg 5/64/366/6 = 120/1296 1 Fg and 1 StB killed by Fg vs no casualty 5/616/361/6 = 80/1296 1 Fg killed by Fg and 1 StB killed by AAA vs no casualty 5/616/365/6= 400/1296 1 Fg killed by Fg vs no casualty 5/616/361/6 = 80/1296 1 StB killed by AAA vs no casualty 5/616/365/6 = 400/1296 no casualty at all Results: Bombard on IC: 960/1296 * ((1+2)+(6+2) IPCs)/2= +5.5 IPCs) = + 4.074 IPCs 3.5= +2.593 Killing 1 Fg: 216/1296 +10 IPCs = + 1.667 IPCs Fg killed: 480/1296-10 IPCs = - 3.704 IPCs StB killed: 96/1296 -5 IPCs = - 0.370 IPCs StB & Fg killed: 240/1296* -15 IPCs = - 2.778 IPCs D6 vs 2Fgs D2: +4.260 - 6.852 = -2.592 IPCs D6+2 vs 2Fgs D2: + 5.741 - 6.852 = -1.111 IPCs damage/SBR D6 vs D1: +4.503 - 1.690 = +2.813 IPCs D6+2 vs D1: + 6.123 - 1.690 = + 4.433 IPCs damage/SBR 1 Fighter Att 1 and 1 Strategic Bomber Att 0 doing SBR against 1 interceptor Def 2 Fighter escort taking the casualty. Fighter roll/interceptor Fg roll/ AAA roll = odds casualties 1/62/61/6= 2/216 1 Fg killed by Fg and 1 StB killed by AAA vs 1 Fg 1/62/65/6= 10/216 1 Fg killed by Fg vs 1 Fg 1/64/61/6 = 4/216 1 StB killed by AAA vs 1 Fg 1/64/65/6 = 20/216 No casualty vs 1 Fg 5/62/61/6 = 10/216 1 Fg killed by Fg and 1 StB killed by AAA vs no casualty 5/62/65/6 = 50/216 1 Fg killed by Fg vs no casualty 5/64/61/6 = 20/216 1 StB killed by AAA vs no casualty 5/64/65/6 = 100/216 no casualty at all Results: Bombard on IC: 180/216 * ((1+2)+(6+2) IPCs)/2= +5.5 IPCs) = + 4.583 IPCs 3.5= +2.917 Killing 1 Fg: 36/216 +10 IPCs = + 1.667 IPCs Fg killed:60/216-10 IPCs = -2.778 IPCs StB killed: 24/216 -5 IPCs = - 0.555 IPCs StB & Fg killed: 12/216* -15 IPCs = -0.833 IPC 1Fg A1 1StB D6 vs 1 Fg D2: +4.583 - 4.166 = +0.418 IPCs 1Fg A1 1StB D6+2 vs 1 Fg D2: + 6.250 - 4.166 = + 2.084 IPCs damage/SBR 1Fg A1 1StB D6: +2.500 - 1.111 = +1.389 IPCs 1Fg A1 1StB D6+2: + 6.250 - 1.111 = + 5.139 IPCs damage/SBR 2 Strategic Bombers Att 0 doing SBR against 2 interceptors Def 2 Interceptor Fgs roll/ AAA roll = odds casualties 4/3636/36= 144/1296 2 StBs killed by Fgs 16/366/36 = 96/1296 1 StB killed by Fg and 1 StB killed by AAA 16/36*30/36= 480/1296 1 StB killed by Fg 16/361/36 = 16/1296 2 StBs killed by AAA 16/3610/36 = 160/1296 1 StB killed by AAA 16/36*25/36 = 400/1296 No casualty at all. Results: 2x Bombard on IC 400/1296* ((2+4)+(12+4) IPCs)/2= +11 IPCs) = +3.395 IPCs 7=+2.160 1x Bombard on IC 640/1296 ((1+2)+(6+2) IPCs)/2= +5.5 IPCs) = + 2.716 IPCs 3.5=+1.728 2 StBs killed 256/1296 -10 IPCs = -1.975 IPCs 1 StB killed 640/1296* -5 IPCs = -2.469 IPCs D6 vs 2 Fgs D2: +3.888 - 4.444 =-0.556 IPCs D6+2 vs 2Fgs D2: +6.111 - 4.444 = +1.667 IPCs damage/SBR D6 vs 2 Fgs D1: +4.863 - 3.056 = +1.807 IPCs D6+2 vs 2Fgs D1: + 7.639 - 3.056 = + 4.583 IPCs damage/SBR 2 Strategic Bombers Att 0 doing SBR against 1 interceptor Def 2 Interceptor Fg roll/ AAA roll = odds casualties 2/66/36 = 12/216 1 StB killed by Fg and 1 StB killed by AAA 2/630/36= 60/216 1 StB killed by Fg 4/61/36 = 4/216 2 StBs killed by AAA 4/610/36 = 40/216 1 StB killed by AAA 4/6*25/36 = 100/216 No casualty at all. Results: 2x Bombard on IC 100/216* ((2+4)+(12+4) IPCs)/2= +11 IPCs) = +5.093 IPCs 7=+3.241 1x Bombard on IC 100/216 ((1+2)+(6+2) IPCs)/2= +5.5 IPCs) = + 2.546 IPCs 3.5=+1.620 2 StBs killed 16/216 -10 IPCs = -0.741 IPC 1 StB killed 100/216* -5 IPCs = -2.315 IPCs 2 StBs D6 vs 1 Fg D2: +4.861 - 3.056= +1.805 IPCs 2 StBs D6+2 vs 1 Fg D2: +7.639 - 3.056 = +4.583 IPCs damage/SBR 2 StBs D6 vs 1 Fg D1: +5.347 - 2.361= +2.986 IPCs 2 StBs D6+2 vs 1 Fg D1: +8.403 - 2.361 = +6.042 IPCs damage/SBR @Baron: Summary: StB A0 C12 vs Fg A1 C10 1 Strategic Bomber doing SBR against no interceptor D6+2: + 4.583 - 2 = +2.583 IPCs damage/SBR run D6: +2.917-2= 0.917 IPCs 1 Strategic Bomber A0 doing SBR against 1 interceptor D1 D6+2: + 3.819 - 3.667 = + 0.152 IPC damage/SBR run D6: + 2.431 - 3.667 = -1.236 1 Strategic Bomber A0 doing SBR against 2 interceptors D1 D6+2: + 3.183 - 5.056 = - 1.873 IPCs damage/SBR run D6: + 2.025 - 5.056 = -3.031 IPCs 1 Fighter A1 and 1 Strategic Bomber A0 doing SBR against 2 interceptors D1 D6+2: + 6.123 - 5.334 = + 0.789 IPC damage/SBR run D6: +4.503 - 5.334 = -0.831 IPCs 2 Strategic Bombers A0 doing SBR against 2 interceptors D1 D6+2: + 7.639 - 7.334 = + 0.305 IPC damage/SBR run D6: +4.863 - 7.334= -2.471 IPCs 1 Fighter A1 and 1 Strategic Bomber A0 doing SBR against 1 interceptor D1 D6+2: + 6.250 - 3.667 = + 2.583 IPCs damage/SBR run D6: +2.500 - 3.667 = -1.167 IPCs 2 Strategic Bombers A0 doing SBR against 1 interceptor D1 D6+2: + 8.403 - 5.666 = + 2.737 IPCs damage/SBR D6: + 5.347 -5.666= -0.319 IPCs Comparison of this HR with Triple A SBR for 1942.2 1942.2 SBR HRules with StB A0 and Fg A1 D1 : damage 1D6+2   Triple A SBR for 1942.2: damage 1D6 1 Strategic Bomber doing SBR against no interceptor             1 StB doing SBR without interceptor Sum: + 4.583 - 2 = +2.583 IPCs damage/SBR run                Sum: +2.917 - 2 = +0.917 IPC damage/SBR run 1 Strategic Bomber A0 doing SBR against 1 interceptor D1     1 StB A1 against 1 Fg D1 Sum: + 3.819 - 3.667 = + 0.152 IPC. damage/SBR run        Sum: +3.69 - 3.667 = + 0.023 IPC damage/SBR run 1 Strategic Bomber A0 doing SBR against 2 interceptors D1       1 StB A1 doing SBR against 2 intercepting Fgs D1 Sum: + 3.183 - 5.056 = - 1.873 IPC. damage/SBR run              Sum: + 2.025 - 5.056 = - 3.031 IPCs damage/SBR run 1 Fighter A1 and 1 Strategic Bomber A0 doing SBR against 2 interceptors D1       1 StB & 1 Fg A1 doing SBR against 2 intercepting Fgs D1 Sum: + 6.123 - 5.334 = + 0.789 IPC damage/SBR run              Sum: +6.155 - 5.33 = + 0.825 IPC damage/SBR run 2 Strategic Bombers A0 doing SBR against 2 interceptors D1         2 StBs A1 doing SBR against 2 intercepting Fgs D1 Sum: + 7.639 - 7.334 = + 0.305 IPCs damage/SBR run              Sum: +8.195 - 7.334 = + 0.861 IPC damage/SBR run 1 Fighter A1 and 1 Strategic Bomber A0 doing SBR against 1 interceptor D1       1 StB & 1 Fg A1 doing SBR against 1 intercepting Fg D1 Sum: + 6.250 - 3.667 = + 2.583 IPC damage/SBR run         Sum: + 5.973 - 3.667 = + 2.306 IPCs damage/SBR run 2 Strategic Bombers A0 doing SBR against 1 interceptor D1         2 StBs A1 doing SBR against 1 intercepting Fg D1 Sum: + 8.403 - 5.666 = + 2.737 IPCs damage/SBR run         Sum: +8.403 - 5.666 = + 2.737 IPCs damage/StB