Transport Rules

@Marshmallow:

You cannot. You can load the transport in the non-combat round after it “participates” in combat, but it cannot be moved or unloaded.

@Marshmallow:

@simon33:

If you can’t move it why would you be able to load it?

Because the rules allow it?

Sorry, this is wrong.

The “Sea Units Starting in Hostile Seazones”-Rules still apply.

And this is what the rules actually say:

@rulebook:

Sea Units Starting in Hostile Seazones
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Once these sea units have moved and/or participated in combat, they can’t move or participate in the Noncombat Move phase of the turn.

So the transport that started in a hostile seazone and was part of the seabattle there, is neither allowed to move nor to participate in any other way in the Noncombat Move Phase.

I believe you are correct sir. However, if as you pointed out the transport is not able to do anything during non-combat movement, that means this is correct:

@Marshmallow:

You can pick up the troops in Manchuria and land them in another territory if you don’t own the territory. If you do own the territory, you are SOL because you can’t do non-combat movement during the combat movement phase and moving during the combat movement phase means you can’t unload during the non-combat phase.

You can move the transport, pick up the troops, and move it to the sea zone off Kwangtung. However, if you own Kwangtung, you can’t land the troops there during combat movement (that would be doing non-combat movement during the combat movement phase) and you can’t offload them during non-combat movement either, as the transport would be “participating” in non-combat movement.

Marsh

@Marshmallow:

I believe you are correct sir. However, if as you pointed out the transport is not able to do anything during non-combat movement, that means this is correct:

@Marshmallow:

You can pick up the troops in Manchuria and land them in another territory if you don’t own the territory. If you do own the territory, you are SOL because you can’t do non-combat movement during the combat movement phase and moving during the combat movement phase means you can’t unload during the non-combat phase.

You can move the transport, pick up the troops, and move it to the sea zone off Kwangtung. However, if you own Kwangtung, you can’t land the troops there during combat movement (that would be doing non-combat movement during the combat movement phase) and you can’t offload them during non-combat movement either, as the transport would be “participating” in non-combat movement.

You can move the transport (out of SZ6), pick up the troops (from Manchuria), and move it to the sea zone off Kwangtung only if you intend to unload the units into a hostile territory during the same combat move. (“- Leave the sea zone, load units if desired, and conduct combat elsewhere”).

If you load units during Combat Move you will have to unload them during the same Combat Move for an amphibious assault:

@rulebook:

If a transport loads land units during the Combat Move phase, it must offload those units to attack a hostile territory as part of an amphibious assault during the Conduct Combat phase, or it must retreat during the sea combat step of the amphibious assault sequence while attempting to do so.

What P@nther said.

What I meant is why would you think that the rules allow it?

Cause Wild Bill told me I was wrong the first time I posted what I posted and got me all confused.

Marsh

haven’t played in a few years but about to start again. If I have TT in a friendly SZ, can I load the TT, and conduct an assault in the same combat phase? Can I load the TT in a friendly zone, and then off load then TT on friendly territory in the same noncombat phase?

@munchie19:

If I have TT in a friendly SZ, can I load the TT, and conduct an assault in the same combat phase?

Yes, if you load in the Combat Move Phase, you must conduct an amphibious assault in the same Combat Move Phase.

@munchie19:

Can I load the TT in a friendly zone, and then off load then TT on friendly territory in the same noncombat phase?

Yes, provided the transport has not been involved in the Combat Move Phase or was part of a battle in the same turn.

Think be a good place to add a Transport Rule Question… ( good thread here though ).

Rules say on pg *32 of Pacific 2nd Edition:
Carry Land Units: A transport can carry land units belonging to you or to friendly powers (provided both powers are at war).

So if you are not at war yet, can you transport your own units? I assume yes you can.

BTW…Hey Cmdr Jennifer, nice seeing you again!

Bravehart

@Bravehart:

Think be a good place to add a Transport Rule Question… ( good thread here though ).

Rules say on pg *32 of Pacific 2nd Edition:
Carry Land Units: A transport can carry land units belonging to you or to friendly powers (provided both powers are at war).

So if you are not at war yet, can you transport your own units? I assume yes you can.
Bravehart

Not sure which power you are talking about, but to clarify the UK Pac and Anz are not neutral, they start at war with the Euro axis so they don’t have any movement restrictions on either map (they don’t have to be at war w/Japan).

While neutral the US and Russia can’t be on any territories that don’t belong to them, nor can other powers place units on US or Russia territories while they are neutral.

Russia doesn’t start with any transports, but could load and move them if they did on both maps while neutral.

The US can load and move their own transports on both maps while neutral, but have some restrictions. On the Euro map all US ships must end movement next to a US territory (war ships can go out to sz 102, but transports can’t). On the Pac side the US has more freedom of movement, but their ships can not end movement next to a Japanese territory.

BTW Japan isn’t allowed to have ships with in 2 szs of Western US, or Alaska while the US is neutral.

Thanks for the explained clarification Wild Bill, it helped!

BH