The only other way for Tiger to work is A8 2.20 D8 2.20 C8 but then SS Panzer the better buy.

At 1 hit, it is A9 (2.20).

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Tiger Tank build 1 only Starting T3
A7  2.20
D7  2.20
M2
C10 2 hits

SS Panzer  build 2 only starting T2
A7 2.33
D6 2.00
M2
C6

IS-1   build 2 only starting on T3
A7 2.33
D7 2.33
M2
C6

Med Tank
A6 2.00
D6 2.00
M2
C6

I like this best. Tiger dont get over powering late in game. SS Panzer cheaper but only get the better attack and there were a lot of these in war. Makes you think about the 2 hit tank A4.40 to SS panzer A4.66  C10 - C12

Out of curiosity, I added the 9 IPCs row for 2 hits on my sheet.

Tiger Tank build 1 only Starting T3
Attack 7  (2.72)
Defense 7  (2.72)
Move 2
Cost 9 2 hits

Is this might be interesting to you?
This can challenge IS-1 and still only 1 produce at a fewer cost than Naval Fighter.

@Baron:

The only other way for Tiger to work is A8 2.20 D8 2.20 C8 but then SS Panzer the better buy.

At 1 hit, it is A9 (2.20).

For cost of 7.

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Tiger Tank build 1 only Starting T3
A7  2.20
D7  2.20
M2
C10 2 hits

SS Panzer  build 2 only starting T2
A7 2.33
D6 2.00
M2
C6

IS-1   build 2 only starting on T3
A7 2.33
D7 2.33
M2
C6

Med Tank
A6 2.00
D6 2.00
M2
C6

I like this best. Tiger dont get over powering late in game. SS Panzer cheaper but only get the better attack and there were a lot of these in war. Makes you think about the 2 hit tank A4.40 to SS panzer A4.66  C10 - C12

Out of curiosity, I added the 9 IPCs row for 2 hits on my sheet.

Tiger Tank build 1 only Starting T3
Attack 7  (2.72)
Defense 7  (2.72)
Move 2
Cost 9 2 hits

Is this might be interesting to you?
This can challenge IS-1 and still only 1 produce at a fewer cost than Naval Fighter.

Killing me. I should of checked for the odd number 2 hit buy. I added the 2  values together and divide by 2 and got 2.71 close enough

Im gonna go with the C9 Tiger with the values you posted. So im done tweakin for today.

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Med. Bomber
A 4d12s @2 ground only every round
A 2d12s @2 naval only every round
D 1d12  @2 or escape roll @2
M6
C10
Dog Fight @1
SBR 1d8 +1 damage
AA Gun D@2 against ea Med. Bomb

H. Bomber
A 3d12s @3 ground only every round
A 2d12s @3naval only every round
D 1d12   @3 or escape roll @3
M7
C12
Dog Fight @2
SBR 1d10 +1 damage
AA Gun D@1 against ea H Bomb

Tac Bomber  : Cannot land on Carriers.
A7 Can pick target with a return shot. Ground only.
A3 against surfaced subs only. No return shot.
D5 Can pick target with a return shot. Ground only .
M5
C11
Dog Fight @1
SBR 1d8 damage (Air - Naval ports, Train Stations and Oil Derricks)
SBR Kills AA gun on a roll of 4 or less
AA Gun D@1 against ea Tac Bomb

Naval Dive Bomber  : Can land on Carriers and ground.
A7 Roll 4 or less can pick target with a return shot
A3 against surfaced subs only. No return shot
D5 Roll of 3 or less pick target with a return shot
M4
C10
Dog Fight @1
SBR 1d8 damage ( Air - Naval ports, Oil Derricks)
SBR Kills AA gun on a roll of 4 or less
AA Gun D@1 against ea Dive Bomb

Naval Fighter  : Can land anywhere.
A5
D7
M4
C10
Dog Fight @3
AA Gun D@2 against ea N. Fig
Cannot hit surfaced subs.

Fighter
A6
D7
M5
C11
Dog Fight@3
AA Gun D@2 against ea Fig
Cannot hit surfaced subs.

AA Gun
A0
D@2 at each plane
D@1 at ea H Bomb, Tac & Dive Bomb
M1
C5

Air Transport
A0
D0
M5
C10  Can transport 2 Elites or 2 Paratroopers or 1 Elite 1 Paratrooper in combat and any combination of 2 inf or 1 inf 1 art in non combat. If you get Paratrooper Tech can transport 3 units any combo. Only 2 inf or 1 inf 1 art non combat still.

Ger. Grenadiar build 2 starting T2
A4
D4
M2
C4
Can Blitz

SS Panzer build 2 starting T2
A7
D6
M2
C6

Tiger Tank build 1 starting T3
A7
D7
M2
C9 2 hits

IS-1 Russia build 2 starting T3
A7
D7
M2
C6

Elite Inf
A4
D2
M1
C3    Build 2 only per turn. NA for US-Italy can build 3 a turn

Paratroopers
A2-3  A3 FSR only on AMP ASSLT
D4
M1
C3     Paratrooper Tech- Can air transport 3 Paratroopers

Art
A4
D4
M1-2 towed by Mech and SPA
C4

SPA
A4-5
D4-5  Tank  boost +1 on A/D 1:1
M2
C5  Can tow Art and blitz

German Wolf Packs 2 or more subs attacking.
A6  FS
A7  FS if get NA Wolf Pack or Sub Tech get A7 FS  D3
D2
M2
C7
Subs cannot hit subs
Subs can submerge after DF or Tac FS
Subs doing FS have to stay surfaced.
Cannot submerge until next round of combat.
Submerged subs after 1 round of combat can
1. Resurface
2. Stay Submerged
Surfaced subs can be taken as casualties.

Subs
A5  FS
D2
M2
C7
Subs cannot hit subs.
Subs can submerge after DF or Tac FS
Subs doing FS have to stay surfaced.
Submerged subs after 1 round of combat can
1. Resurface
2. Stay Submerged

Battleships
A9
D9
M2
C15   2 hits

Cruisers
A7
D7
M3
C9

Destroyers
A3
D3
M2
C6
**Destroyer gets a Depth Charge Attack on first round of combat only and also gets a combat attack on first round. Any combat rounds after that destroyer just gets a normal surface combat roll.

Carrier
A2
D4
M2
C14   2 hits

Transport
A0
D1  at plane only if not taken as casualty
M2
C7
ES2 only if Transport is alone and being attacked by
only subs or planes and is not killed per round.

Japan doesnt receive H. Bombers.

This has been updated.  July 9,  2018

These values are for next game. We will see if H Bomber A against navy is to strong.**

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@Baron:

The only other way for Tiger to work is A8 2.20 D8 2.20 C8 but then SS Panzer the better buy.

At 1 hit, it is A9 (2.20).

For cost of 7.

Yes for 7 IPCs.
A9 (2.20)
1 hit

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SS Panzer  build 2 only starting T2
A7 2.33
D6 2.00
M2
C6

IS-1   build 2 only starting on T3
A7 2.33
D7 2.33
M2
C6

Med Tank
A6 2.00
D6 2.00
M2
C6

I like this best. Tiger dont get over powering late in game. SS Panzer cheaper but only get the better attack and there were a lot of these in war. Makes you think about the 2 hit tank A4.40 to SS panzer A4.66  C10 - C12

Is it a mistake that your previous roster put both SS Panzer and IS-1 at 7 IPCs?

BTW, I like that 6 IPCs SS Panzer is simply a regular Tank with more attack combat value.
In fact, SS divisions were fierceless and have a reputation for cruelty.
Limiting to two is correct too.

This is Panzer Grenadier right?
A very mobile Infantry division with many Panzers.
Seems right in itself, like a more efficient Mechanized Infantry.

Ger. Grenadiar build 2 starting T2
A4 (3.00)
D4 (3.00)
M2
C4
Can Blitz

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SS Panzer  build 2 only starting T2
A7 2.33
D6 2.00
M2
C6

IS-1   build 2 only starting on T3
A7 2.33
D7 2.33
M2
C6

Med Tank
A6 2.00
D6 2.00
M2
C6

I like this best. Tiger dont get over powering late in game. SS Panzer cheaper but only get the better attack and there were a lot of these in war. Makes you think about the 2 hit tank A4.40 to SS panzer A4.66  C10 - C12

Is it a mistake that your previous roster put both SS Panzer and IS-1 at 7 IPCs?

BTW, I like that 6 IPCs SS Panzer is simply a regular Tank with more attack combat value.
In fact, SS divisions were fierceless and have a reputation for cruelty.
Limiting to two is correct too.

This is Panzer Grenadier right?
A very mobile Infantry division with many Panzers.
Seems right in itself, like a more efficient Mechanized Infantry.

Ger. Grenadiar build 2 starting T2
A4 (3.00)
D4 (3.00)
M2
C4
Can Blitz

Grenadiar is correct. The rest I look at again

I may have to tweak IS-1 because I don’t know how strong it was really without checking history  been crunching numbers all day. Making typing errors lol

IS-1 and IS-2 were heavy Tank.
Since Soviets were able to outproduce Germany, I find it OK that Tiger are limited to 1 per turn while IS-1 to 2 per Turn.
I saw that IS have some mechanical issues, so cannot beat Tigers.

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IS-1 and IS-2 were heavy Tank.
Since Soviets were able to outproduce Germany, I find it OK that Tiger are limited to 1 per turn while IS-1 to 2 per Turn.
I saw that IS have some mechanical issues, so cannot beat Tigers.

Ya that I knew. But some use the KV1 and 2s which is wrong.

With the oil derricks in game on Sumatra, Java and Borneo and territories worth 4 ea plus 1 for ea derrick now you can SBR them plus other ones on map. So now if Japan captures them the allies can bomb them or vice versa. The money is taken away from there income like a convoy box. Japan wants the island money then they should earn it for there oil. Keep repairing it or defend it or leave it damaged. It seems to for e Japan to buy more ground troops for land money later in game and keeps them from buying some navy.

Also with a Oil Derrick in Romania I am also putting one in Berlin or Germany territory. From what I read 60% oil came from coal at refineries in Leuon and the allies bombed it the whole war.
25% oil came from Romania and even Norway were late in war allies bombed there too. So now the refinery ( oil derrick ) in Berlin can be SBR to for up to 5 damage. 
Russia has 3 territories and Uk 3 territories with oil derricks that also can be SBR.
I feel any oil penalty should be more than 1-2 icps if you dont have derricks all over the map and can control these in low numbers.

Couldnt get anybody to play test this past weekend so I grabbed my son and said try to make some plays but I need you to roll dice for what its worth. I need to try a All Pacific allies attack in a game test because nobody has done it yet in all the 40 games we have played so far.
For what it worth, Japan on T1 got the worst Event Card out of 22 cards in deck to get "Cant move ships off Carolina Islands.
So now this prevented  Japan from attacking the US Fleet off of Line Islands. Then on US T1, they attacked the Japan Fleet off of Carolina Islands. Sweet. Now even better for a KJF or What ever in the Pacific.

Russia got Rockets Tech T1 and now damaged the Romanian Oil Refinery for 5 damage against Germanys income. Russia bought another AA gun for Stalingrad because the original AA moved so it can now at least bomb 1 of Germanys Minor IC.
So now on T1 the FEC build a Minor IC in Madras worth 2 icps plus with IC in Calcutta worth 3 icps they can build now 5 pieces per turn. ( Can only build Up to the territories value ) Plus on T1 UK landed 4 inf from South Africa to Madras and moved 2 inf and 1 tank from Mideast towards Madras. Plus Anzac just landed 6 ground in Madasgar and will be able to land them in Madras. In Europe map pic. Once FEC gets control in India they can always counter or move ground to Cairo and reclaim. With US pressure and hoping a small Anzac fleet can pressure the Oil Refinery money Islands. Also Cant build capital ships in S AF, Calcutta and Anzac.
Granted UK pretty much abandoned Cairo. But Cairo is only worth 1 VC point. Calcutta worth 2 VC points. This will make the Axis  work even harder to get that 1 VC point because also they didnt get Calcutta worth 2 VC points. US just took Wake Island with some Marines. US got there NA can build 1 extra Marine per turn in the Pacific only or 1 extra US Ranger on the Europe side. So you can do any combo of 3 total.
This like what GHG is talking about in G40 game thread with Calcutta Persia IC NB strategy.

Use the Naval Bases to your advantage off of Australia, Madras, Madagascor, Cairo, Upper Egypt and S AF as allies. ( FEC Anzac )

So now the question is Do I need to make Cairo worth 2 VC points or leave it and for the Axis to get that extra 1 VC point make up by forcing them to go all out for London 3 VC points or Moscow 3 VC points. Axis would need Italy to hold Cairo but would still need a major support to Germany to get Moscow. But then the US could do a flip and buy all Europe on T3-5 and push or just land in Europe making both Italy and Germany have to defend Paris and stopping the Moscow crush.
Map pics

Epic.

So now the question is Do I need to make Cairo worth 2 VC points or leave it and for the Axis to get that extra 1 VC point make up by forcing them to go all out for London 3 VC points or Moscow 3 VC points. Axis would need Italy to hold Cairo but would still need a major support to Germany to get Moscow. But then the US could do a flip and buy all Europe on T3-5 and push or just land in Europe making both Italy and Germany have to defend Paris and stopping the Moscow crush.

With Derricks as a major way to hinder Axis, both Germany and Japan, I would wait to see how Allies can use it to outweigh Axis holding many VCs.

If, after a game or two, it is obvious that Axis Victory is too easily achieve by not gaining either Moscow or London, I would then rise Cairo and require an additional VC points to win for Axis.
So the options will be either all minor VCs or, at least one major VCs (London or Moscow).

With Making Cairo worth 2 this would put the Axis more in a holding defense pattern but still would have some kind of major battles for the Mideast Oil territories for that 1 VC point bonus for Axis plus they still need to conquer enough territories to get that other 1 VC bonus point for total income of 178.
Axis VC points total with Cairo at 2 for future change
26
+1 Oil bonus
+1 Income bonus
+2 Stalingrad

30 points for win.

With US going Pacific now the Philliphines could be another major battle for.

Heres UK Anzac trying to stop the Calcutta crush. Anzac figs can make it to Madras. Whats not in picture is 2 divisions of Italian tanks maybe coming towards India or take 1 point VC Oil Bonus and run north to Stalingrad.
Or maybe the Italian Tanks division should of went towards S AF for that 1 VC point they need for a win and just defend the Mideast oil and hold S AF. UK could leave Madras altogether and make havic for axis.

So now we leave Cairo worth 1 VC point and see how this turns out.

The 5 move for land planes is helping across the whole Map with a move of 6 from Airbases making the Pacific even more options.

With the game where you are not able to buy AB s and land planes can M5 this makes you have to strategize more with just the AB s on map. History wise there wasnt ABs everywhere you want them.

Clearly M5 Land-based Aircraft are giving a new breath in PTO where there is a lot of SZs to cross between land masses.
This +1M from AB to AB is quite interesting. It makes them strategically more important and capturing AB might stop a lot of travelling aircraft across the map.

How do you use your Convoy Boxes in GW40?

Do you use only SZs touching Convoy Boxes or do you require that Subs be inside Convoys Boxes??

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How do you use your Convoy Boxes in GW40?

Do you use only SZs touching Convoy Boxes or do you require that Subs be inside Convoys Boxes??

For now just inside convoy boxes.
If Germany gets there NA Sub Interdiction then just touching outside of convoy boxes would drain to much income from UK

Played around with another turn and pics show results. Yes it is better if you can do convoy raiding inside boxes for damage and 1 damage ea ship or sub touching a convoy box. Gives the Axis more convoy raiding and does make Allies come get me. This also helps on pacific side to the point of at least getting a 1 or 2 damage on a convoy box without being inside one for US and Japan. Its better to have a sub do damage then a Dest if theres figs in the area and no Tac B. As you can see the US is got some kind of threat for raiders in the Atlantic side but also Italians are buying a few subs too to keep some kind of pressure on allies while allies buying more in Pacific side for the KJF plan. Plus US needs those Tacs also too.
With Germany taking Gibr and Azores island, it is preventing landing spots for the allies to use there Tac Bombers against German Wolf packs! Hey what do you know. Action finally in thee Atlantic !

Japan had to attack Madras and UK fleet off Madras to stop the massive flow. The Italians came down to Arabia but now that was a mistake because on next turn that is not posted yet do to not being done the Russians counter the Germans in the Caucasus and rolled like 80% hits wiping out a ton of major pieces for Germany. So as history was kinda,  the Italians cannot go help Japan in India probably never unless its a kill all game. Germany does need Italy’s help on all 4 fronts that they can support.
So now the Italians will have to abandon Arabia and go back to Mideast and help Germany get Stalingrad if its not to late.

Epic naval battle between Japan and UK in India sea zone. The one round of DF before naval battle hurt Japan most because they were the strongest in the air battle but didnt get as many hits as they needed to really wipe out the UK indan Fleet in the naval battle. Epic History Action ! Ea side got transport hits @1 on a few planes and  ea side got 3 transport escapes @2. UK has 5 transports off of S AF but cant do nothing do to no navy protection for now.

US trying to get there H. Bombers to Tokyo but Japan countering some what. US does need Russia landing spot.

Japan will just need to go on the defense for a while.

Germany does have there German Influence NA ( like lend lease ) which means they can buy 2 pieces a turn and place in Italian IC’s.
So now they bought 2 subs and placed in Rome SZ. With Italian subs combo now keep the pressure on convoy raiding like it should be.

With figs not being able to hit subs the Tac is kinda a nice piece now with the Stg B hitting them as well. Plus as mentioned the Carriers only being able to hold naval D B and N figs and only moving 4 is huge in the game. Japan cant just go and Jam every plane in a battle. You have to plan your naval attacks on naval better ( land too ) and plan ahead. Also with ground planes M5 -6 with AB you are just constantly looking for all planes that can counter against you every where. You really need to think and look now. With the added stuff yes the game is a little slower but will speed up once people get used to the new added stuff to game.

With Russia getting Rockets Tech on first turn was huge for them. Keep some pressure on Germany. Germany did lose 2 planes to SBR Rocket AA gun attacks. If Italy would of stay in Mideast then this wouldnt have been such a serious blow to the Germans.

Thats whats nice about this game. Every game is a bit different and you need to make those minor tweaks on A and D plus buys.

For what its worth it is getting more Historical now than ever.