• I would need at least Allies+60 to have an even chance against Adam.  He will find that small strategic mistake somewhere on the board and ram it down your throat.  A couple expensive units here or there, or a few high-value territories and he now has the advantage as Axis.  Furthermore he will never make a big mistake to let you back into a match.

    With your additional Allied starting units you will get strong control of a couple theaters of operation on the board (Africa, Russia, Atlantic, Med, India, Money Islands, China, Pacific, Siberia, Middle East), but that still leaves a bunch of other theaters where he can press his strategic advantage to ultimately win late-game victories.  Just because the Allies controls Moscow and India on G7 and J7 in a PBEM game doesn’t mean that the Axis can’t create enough threats to prevail.  That is a huge difference compared to a face-to-face match where usually one side yolo’s it and gets in a big fight because they have become bored during the many hours of play.

    Eventually the Axis mobility will allow Adam to quickly pivot faster than you can foresee, pressing a killer attack while maintaining just enough defense to stall or delay the Allies’ plans.  You are celebrating that the stack in Moscow is holding strong and all of a sudden there is sufficient fleet with Luftwaffe support to crush Egypt.  You think that the combined forces in the Middle East will provide adequate defense against the Italians+Germans when all of a sudden he gets his Japanese forces to swing the difference in odds.  You think that you have appropriate ship blocks in the Pacific and he will bring in German bombers to force your Allied forces to consolidate into a non-strategic sea zone.  He will find something and you will lose.  Soooo many great people have learned that lesson the hard way.  The Axis have control of the momentum and can maintain it throughout the game if the player has sufficient skill and the dice don’t wreck havoc.

  • '22 '20 '19 '18 '17 '16 '15 '14 '12

    Agreed.  Bids are a little overrated.

    The one unit per terr. limit dumbs down the effect pretty good.

    Not to mention, 40 is only 4 ftrs…… not a huge difference, which is why the bid is usually dumped in the unit starved middle east where it can more impact.

  • '19 '17 '16

    Bids allow some opening Axis attacks to be blocked, such as SZ111 and Yunnan and also allows some allied attacks to be strengthened (Taranto, Ethiopia).

    This differs from Balanced Mod’s approach which is to strengthen the allies later in the game. Both approaches have weaknesses IMO.

    I’m struggling to find a counter to strong Axis play in either version. If Axis play well and dice are even, they should win easily.


  • Allies win 80% or more. Have played over 200 games and despite Japan size it comes down to the Atlantic board, if played properly.

  • '22 '21

    @rscerie I’d say in reverse for the Axis Powers (probably even More), when playing with players with equal experience & expertise- haven’t lost an OOB game yet when playing the Axis!!!


  • @nolimit @RSCERIE

    Have to agree with nolimit here. 75-25 Axis seems about right to me.


  • I agree that it is heavy Axis unbalanced, some say the US has to focus all in Europe and then the Axis can’t win but if they do so Japan becomes soooo strong and then it’s simply a game of numbers, you can’t compete with Japan’s economy and China, UK, and Anzac can’t really fight back much, they just try not to die quickly.


  • @nolimit be interesting to see what strategy is played by the Axis. A US balance is required to keep Japan as bay but also pressure Europe. We play YouTube wars with another group who also felt the Axis had the advantage but since then realized a pattern for allied victory


  • @tincanofthesea yea it’s a fun game. I remember some saying early that Pacific was only way for USA to win

    @RSCERIE been a lot of league games played and Axis has a big advantage from the elite players. Not played that much anymore, as most have gone to BM3 and “Path to Victory” which is a different game.

    You can look at the old games if you have triplea https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/17147/gargantua-s-k-i-s-s-triplea-instructions/11

    There’s also some strategy guides https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/19929/germany-playbook-overall-strategy-guide?page=1

    https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/17005/the-japan-playbook/346

    but mostly it’s cool af you’ve played 200 games :+1: :grin:

    Anyway Rock On !

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  • '22 '21

    @rscerie Only way to convince me is to play against me as the Allies over the YouTube, Yes I have thrown down the Gauntlet!!!

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