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UK Pacific to Africa



  • Hi there…

    I was curious on this situation: Axis has London.

    In Africa at this point an Italian units is in a UK territory ( in Eastern African side ). If troops from the UK Pacific comes across on transports and attacks that UK Territory belonging to the European UK side, and wins the territory, what happens next?

    Does the UK Pacific just reclaims the territory and no IPC value to there UK P ipc income, or DOES the UK Pacific get the IPC income?

    Would be great for an answer if anyone has one!

    BH


  • 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015 '14 '13 Moderator

    Hi Bravehart. The Pacific side des not get the income, I am afraid. It belongs to the European, half, even if London is lost.
    Of course, America or Anzac  could take it and convert it, as long as they held their capital, taking the income.


  • 2015

    So, UK Pacific could not build in SA in that situation?  Not that that’s terribly likely to come up…


  • 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015 '14 '13 Moderator

    Never.

    I have always wanted to play with UK Europe having Canada as a second Capital, if London were to fall, but have never got round to it. Also, Sealion rarely happens these days. I find most  people realise the war is won in Russia and that Sealion can prove a diversion.



  • Great Question, all these games have such a depth which is what makes Axis and Allies great.



  • The key concept here is that UK Pac and UK Europe are not two separate countries. Both place “UK” units - there is no such thing as a “UK Europe” unit as opposed to a “UK Pacific” unit.

    The way it works is that any territory owned by UK is owned by “UK”, not by “UK Europe” or “UK Pacific”. When income is collected, the territories owned by UK are divided by a vertical line west of India. Anything west of that line is UK Europe income, anything east is UK Pacific income. So there’s really no such thing as a territory being explicitly held by UK Pacific; they are actually held by the UK, and the income is allocated to the Pacific capital if it is east of the divider, or to the Europe capital if west of it.

    To summarize:

    • in terms of territory ownership, there is only UK ownership, UK Europe (UKE) and UK Pacific (UKP) do not own territories
    • UKE and UKP are relevant only in dividing UK income, purchasing and placing separately, and maintaining separate IPC pools in case of a capital capture
    • the division of UK income does not change if one or both of the capitals is captured.


  • Okay,

    Thanks all. It came up in a YGH Vid on his UK ( recent ) first move play and he got stumbled on the actual answer!

    Thanks for the answers.

    BH



  • So….

    If the ukP land units claim the pro allies territory like Persia, the 2 ipc value goes towards… UK E cos its on the European side? The standing army would go towards UK P?

    BH



  • @Bravehart:

    So….

    If the ukP land units claim the pro allies territory like Persia, the 2 ipc value goes towards… UK E cos its on the European side? The standing army would go towards UK P?

    BH

    UK Europe would collect for the territory. The units would just be British, there’s no distinction to be made. (One power, two economies)



  • @Bravehart:

    So….

    If the ukP land units claim the pro allies territory like Persia, the 2 ipc value goes towards… UK E cos its on the European side? The standing army would go towards UK P?

    BH

    There’s no such thing as a UKP unit; there are only UK units. The acquired pro-Allies units would become UK units.

    The Persia income would go to UKE because it’s on the European side.


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