15L Playoff Rd2: [4] JDOW (Axis) vs. [8] Gamerman01 (Allies +25)

gamerman01

Site was down when I was trying to post USA
Rolling dice for UK now

gamerman01

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 9

Purchase Units - British
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Bryansk: 1 bomber
EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Greece: 1 bomber
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
British buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
UK_Pacific buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Burma
2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
4 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
4 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium

Combat - British
British creates battle in territory 125 Sea Zone
Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
Battle in Holland Belgium
British attack with 1 fighter and 4 infantry
Germans defend with 2 infantry
British win, taking 125 Sea Zone from Germans, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Italians, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
Casualties for British: 1 infantry
Battle in Burma
British attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Japanese defend with 2 infantry
British win, taking Burma from Japanese with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
1 aaGun moved from India to Burma
1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to 80 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 39 Sea Zone to India
1 armour moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to 81 Sea Zone
1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to 81 Sea Zone
2 armour, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 81 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
2 armour and 2 infantry moved from 79 Sea Zone to West India
3 fighters moved from Bryansk to Eastern Persia
2 fighters moved from Cyprus to Eastern Persia
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to 98 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Eastern Persia
3 fighters moved from Burma to India
2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
1 aaGun moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
1 aaGun moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to United Kingdom
2 aaGuns moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 77 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 77 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone
1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to India
1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 77 Sea Zone
2 destroyers moved from 81 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
1 battleship moved from 77 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya

Place Units - British
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 110 Sea Zone: 1 fighter
EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to United Kingdom: 1 fighter
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
1 transport placed in 71 Sea Zone
1 armour placed in Union of South Africa
1 artillery, 1 fighter and 5 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
British collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs total
Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 44 PUs

Place Units - UK_Pacific
2 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs total
Some Units in India change ownership: 2 infantry

triplea_37262_UK_9.tsvg

gamerman01

Late edit of USA fighter from 110 to London - I gained nothing from leaving it out on the carrier, didn’t think it through during USA noncom I guess

That’s 4 turns with slightly above average luck, but those round 8 hits still hurt

JDOW

No problem about the edit and fair enough with the dice.

Sorry for the delay, I have been out of town recently and busy evenings. I guess I can move tomorrow.

gamerman01

OK, thanks
ANZAC has been ready to go since the UK turn posted - all their units are pretty much spoken for so it will be real quick and easy and you can follow with Germany

JDOW

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 9

Purchase Units - Italians
Italians buy 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians

Non Combat Move - Italians
2 bombers moved from Novgorod to Western Germany
1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Poland
1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Slovakia Hungary
1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Romania
3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France
2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy

Place Units - Italians
3 mech_infantrys placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 7
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3,1,3,6,6
Italians collect 5 PUs (7 lost to blockades); end with 6 PUs total

triplea_37262_Ita9.tsvg

gamerman01

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 9

Purchase Units - ANZAC
ANZAC buy 1 artillery and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java

Combat - ANZAC
Battle in Java

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
2 fighters moved from Queensland to Northern Territory
1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
1 cruiser moved from 77 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from India to Burma
1 fighter moved from Northwest Persia to Bryansk
1 aaGun moved from Queensland to Northern Territory
1 aaGun moved from South Australia to Northern Territory
1 infantry moved from Queensland to Northern Territory
1 artillery moved from South Australia to Northern Territory
1 artillery moved from Queensland to Northern Territory
4 infantry moved from South Australia to Northern Territory
2 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland

Place Units - ANZAC
1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
1 artillery placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
ANZAC collect 16 PUs; end with 17 PUs total
Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs

triplea_37262_ANZ9.tsvg

gamerman01

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 9

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
2 infantry moved from 79 Sea Zone to West India
2 infantry moved from 39 Sea Zone to India
2 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq

Turn Complete - French

triplea_37262_Fre9.tsvg

JDOW

Ii am afraid I need to request a timeout till Tuesday. I am out of town Friday - Sunday.

The position is super competitive and I had a look yesterday but couldn’t finish because I came to the conclusion I would need to try to simulate how the map could look like after J10 to decicde whether to take a shot at the 30% can opener with the German bomber or not.

Unfortunately the next evening with enough time will be Tuesday. Tonight I have just a small slot I will use to give RegularKid the chance to make his US/Chi/UK move over the weekend and move the way easier J6. I won’t be able to do the necessary simulations to J10 in our game tonight.

Sorry for the delay. You postponed your nerqueen game and now I am delaying the game.
However the tension is high. Any glitch could be decisive.
I am confident I can speed up next week again.

Cheers,
Tobias

boldfresh

JDOW’s nightmare - what if it’s already decided? :evil:

gamerman01

It’s not

gamerman01

@JDOW:

I came to the conclusion I would need to try to simulate how the map could look like after J10 to decicde whether to take a shot at the 30% can opener with the German bomber or not.

I think you’ll conclude that’s a bad idea. Even if it works, I only have one transport in 54, 3 planes, couple carriers…. you have few cheap casualties and whatever fleet and air you send will be badly out of position, giving India lots of extra time
And most likely you will be down one very strategic German bomber
If you could actually invade Queensland, that might be another matter, but you can’t.

For awhile I thought you meant the 30% on Burma - also a bad idea

JDOW

Thanks for sharing!
All I can say is that I agree about Burma but don’t really agree about 54.

To me smashing 54 would be a big deal (not decisive but very nice) that exceeds disadvantage of being OOP or so. You obv. don’t want to invite that attack in general, otherwise you wouldn’t have put 2 DDs to block them off.
Also, if I would protect Caroline I would be in range to a harbour from 54 which is one of the main arguments to me to make that attack playable.

I of course know where you coming from which is, that 30% is not enough to risk losing the can opener.
However, imo a bomber is a lot but on the other hand just one piece of ~650 on the board.

In a nutshell to me attacking the 2 DDs is a reasonable risk the Axis can take.

Take it as a compliment After 5 turns I thought I could convert my (imo good position back then) safely into an economic edge. You demonstrated why you are back to back champion and showed me how to prevent that in a manner I have not experience so far from any opponent.

Now we have a fierce battle which might take for a long time which is on unknown ground to me. I genuinely think Axis can still make it but in case I am wrong I don’t want to miss a 30% shot which I am convinced makes a difference and is NOT a pyrrhus victory. Let’s see

As a true nerd I btw might manage to move tonight while being out of town:)

Talk later!
So I can hopefully slow the game less down than announced.

boldfresh

This game is awesome. Gamer, you are living my dream right now…

gamerman01

@JDOW:

You obv. don’t want to invite that attack in general, otherwise you wouldn’t have put 2 DDs to block them off.

No, this way when you attack you are more likely to lose your bomber and get nothing
Sure, when I made the block I didn’t want you to attack, but now that you tell me you’re thinking about it then I look at it a lot more closely

gamerman01

I’ve read the whole message now….
thank you

Bottom line it all depends on what you decide… sure will be great for me if you try it and fail
It’s only 1 piece!

boldfresh

I think it will be a few more days at least for this move.

JDOW

Hey Gamerman,

did not work out on Saturday, wives had other plans in the evening:D

So as announced I will move on Tuesday.

gamerman01

It’s no problem at all of course, and thank you for the update
Wish you all the best, except in this game

JDOW

On it now. Frankly, you talked me off attacking the DDs at sz46 with the German bomber. If this was your intention, well done. If you genuinely think this is better for the Axis, thank you:D

the equation is: Is the gained advantage x 0.3 bigger than losing that bomber?
The answer after trying to simulate Japan was: Not sure.

Didn’t want to make decisions based on that and rather keep the tension then.

Moving now.

JDOW

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Politics - Germans
Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War

Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 2 artilleries, 13 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
1 mech_infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Bulgaria
Germans take Bulgaria from British
1 armour moved from Rostov to Northwest Persia
Germans take Caucasus from Russians
Germans take Northwest Persia from British
1 bomber moved from Philippines to 42 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
1 artillery moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
3 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
1 fighter moved from Germany to Holland Belgium
1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Holland Belgium
1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Holland Belgium
2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Belarus
1 infantry moved from Rostov to Ukraine
1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
2 fighters moved from Rostov to Ukraine
1 tactical_bomber moved from Rostov to Ukraine
13 armour, 10 artilleries, 11 infantry and 18 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Volgograd
1 mech_infantry moved from Szechwan to Sikang
1 armour moved from Szechwan to Sikang
1 bomber moved from Novgorod to Sikang

Combat - Germans
Battle in 42 Sea Zone
Germans attack with 1 bomber
ANZAC defend with 1 transport
Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
Battle in Sikang
Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry
Chinese defend with 1 infantry
Germans win, taking Sikang from Chinese with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
Battle in Belarus
Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in Volgograd
Germans attack with 13 armour, 10 artilleries, 11 infantry and 18 mech_infantrys
Russians defend with 1 armour, 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
Germans win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 13 armour, 10 artilleries, 11 infantry and 18 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
Battle in Ukraine
Germans attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in Holland Belgium
Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
British defend with 3 infantry
Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
Casualties for British: 3 infantry
Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
British defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from British with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 1 infantry
Casualties for British: 1 aaGun and 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
1 bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
2 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
1 aaGun moved from France to Holland Belgium
1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
2 armour and 10 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone
2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Finland
2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Vyborg
1 fighter moved from Belarus to Novgorod
7 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Romania
2 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
1 aaGun moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
1 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
1 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
3 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Germany
1 armour moved from Western Germany to Germany
1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from Sikang to Szechwan
1 bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Philippines
1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to Southern Italy
2 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany

Place Units - Germans
2 artilleries and 8 infantry placed in Germany
3 infantry placed in France
2 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,2
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3,6,5,5,3
Germans collect 51 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 51 PUs total
Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 56 PUs
Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 58 PUs
Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 68 PUs
Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Holland Belgium: 1 aaGun
EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 1 aaGun
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

triplea_37262_Ger10.tsvg

boldfresh

I would have gone for it no questions asked.

gamerman01

You are a completely different player and would do virtually every single thing differently, yes
JDOW wisely kept the threat alive

Now watch as the Japs strafe 2 destroyers with zero losses

boldfresh

@Gamerman01:

You are a completely different player and would do virtually every single thing differently, yes
JDOW wisely kept the threat alive

Now watch as the Japs strafe 2 destroyers with zero losses

gamerman01

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 1 armour, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
Russians take Eastern Poland from Germans
2 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov
Russians take Rostov from Italians
1 fighter moved from Russia to Ukraine
1 infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai
Chinese take Tsinghai from Japanese
1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
1 fighter moved from Russia to Belarus
1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
1 fighter moved from Russia to Yenisey
1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Olgiy to Yenisey
1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine

Combat - Russians
Battle in Belarus
Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
Germans defend with 1 infantry
Russians win, taking Belarus from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in Ukraine
Russians attack with 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Germans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
Battle in Yenisey
Russians attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
Japanese defend with 1 infantry
Russians win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
1 fighter moved from Belarus to Russia
1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Russia
1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
1 infantry moved from Tambov to Samara
1 aaGun moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Urals
1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
1 aaGun moved from Tambov to Russia
1 infantry moved from Olgiy to Timguska
2 infantry moved from Olgiy to Timguska
1 fighter moved from Yenisey to Timguska
1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
1 fighter moved from Yenisey to Timguska
1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Urals
1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Russia
1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Russia
1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone

Place Units - Russians
1 armour, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs total

triplea_37262_Rus10.tsvg

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