Landing Aircraft

@nzcamel

Rulebook (Europe 1940.2, page 13) has it:

"However, units can’t end their movement in friendly spaces during the Combat Move phase except in four instances.
…

Sea units that will be participating in an amphibious assault
from a friendly sea zone, as well as sea and/or air units that
may be needed to support it in the case that defending air
units are scrambled (see “Scramble,” page 16).

"

@nzcamel said in Protecting the transports with aircraft, in an amphibious landing, from scrambles.:

@aequitas-et-veritas they aren’t being sent to join a certain combat. They are staying with the fleet (with no enemy ships present) not fighting in the landing battle. Are you sure they are allowed to move in the combat step?

… same rulebook, page 32:

“Carrier aircraft move independently of the carrier on their own turn. They move along with the carrier on its turn if they belong to different powers. On the air units’ turn, they launch before the carrier moves, even if they are not leaving the sea zone themselves.”

So in case the attacking power brings its fighters to the sea zone in question (with the fleet or not) during combat move phase they will fight against possibly scrambling units.

Only fighters belonging to friendly powers remain as cargo on the carrier.

In the latest printing, that last sentence reads, “Transports may not attack in a sea battle without being accompanied by at least 1 unit with an attack value.”

@Wittmann Thanks :)

@Baron:

@Caesar:

@Bob77:

Nope. Facility aa only fires at the bombers directly attacking it. Unit aa guns only fire if their territory is being attacked.
Side note, it would be cool if aa could chose to defend air or ground combat. Like german 88s being used as anti tank guns and 20mm being used against infantry and lite vehicles. Oh well. Back to the game.

Right but AnA will never have a version where each unit has its own attack against certain units. I do think about AA guns should have the ability to shoot at infantry on defense. Each nation in WWII AA guns could be aimed at the ground and I am sure you can find evidence of everyone doing it at some point.

AnA will never try to have a unit that can do better or worse against different units. IE fighters rolling a 3 against other fighters but a 1 against a battleship and G40’s rules for fighters on strategic bombing doesn’t count.

Submarines (and Destroyer somehow vs Sub) and AAA got special targeting. And these units saw various changes.
I saw no outright evidence against more room about special targeting. Do you ?

Correct, but no interpretation is needed.

At the moment the decision where to land has to be made, the scrambled fighters are in the seazone where they scrambled to.
So it is one move from there.

@rulebook:

After all combat is completed, each surviving scrambled air unit must return to the territory from which it was scrambled. If
the enemy has captured that territory, the unit can move 1 space to land in a friendly territory or on a friendly aircraft carrier.
If no such landing space is available, the unit is lost.

3-5 bombers flying to london can be the difference between sea lion success and sea lion fail. It changes the odds drastically. Because Germany has to roll 3 more hits to win… which means more 2s to roll for the defender which means more 4s to roll as the battle drags on.

So yes sometimes Japan postpones war because of bomber purchases by USA.

@AdmiralNagano:

The way I remember it is that, if a plane can theoretically land at the very end of the turn, it can attack.

The only exception to that is a retreat. If you use a carrier in an attack, you can’t assume that you will retreat on some combat round and thus allow your fighter land on it. Other than that, yes, if it can theoretically land, even if a battle is required to be won (like 1 sub versus 1000 battleships) then it can land.

Gotta correct you on that Dessert Fox.

If a naval battle occurs in the sea zone prior to the amphibious assault, then you have the option of retreating your navy as per normal BEFORE any round of fire.  This includes the transports involved.

If the naval battle is resolved and the land units are offloaded into the hostile territory, THEN they cannot be retreated and are forced to fight it out.

If you realize in time that your navy is not gonna last against the defending one in that sea zone before the amphibious assault can even go through, you don’t HAVE to sentence your entire navy (transports included) to now certain death.  You declare an amphibious assault assuming that you can win the sea battle, but the sea battle itself can play out just like any other.