Victory Conditions w/ Russian Revolution

@Krieghund

Thank you!

Adding write-up of procedure we use…
Divided into 2 parts, territory is either Original or Non-Original.

PROCEDURE:

The Revolution can occur at the end of any Russian turn starting with turn 4.
At that time an Armistice is offered FROM the new Soviet Russia power TO the Central Powers.  
The offer is NOT optional and is a ONE time offer, that is accepted or rejected.  
IF ACCEPTED…

No further battle against Russian units is permitted.  Travel into territories with ONLY Russian units is forbidden.

Non-Original Russian Territories and Sea Zones (including Serbia and Romania)
1.  Remove all Russian units.
2.  Remove all Russian sea units.
3.  Remove all Russian control tokens, plus, as applies after step 1, if territory is…
a.  Contested…
    No further action.
b.  Other AP or CP powers only…
    Captured territories goes to remaining power, or if multiple, their choice.
    Original territories, control goes to original power. Exception: If original AP
               power’s capital is captured, then control goes to other AP power (if any).
       c.  No units of any power…
            Original territories, control goes to original power.
            All other territories are uncontrolled.

Original Russian Territories
1.  Remove all Russian units, except leave 1 infantry unit where units exist.
2.  Establish territory control…
    a.  Controlled by a CP power…
         The territory remains in that CP power’s control.  The CP power will continue
 to collect IPC income.  Treat these same as any other neutral territory.  These
          can never become Russian territories again.
    b.  Contested, but only with non-Russian powers…
         1.  Add 1 Russian infantry unit.
         2.  Follow step c.
    c.  Contested…
         Territory remains contested for remainder of game.  However the CP player
  is allowed movement through the territory if it maintains a garrison.  AP players
  cannot enter these territories. Plus see step e. ** If CP leaves, it cannot re-enter.**
    d.  Occupied with other AP power(s) only…
         1.  Add 1 Russian infantry unit.
         2.  Follow step e.          
    e.  Shared with other AP power(s) (with or without CP powers)…
         AP player must leave Russia by end of their next move once the revolution
 has occurred or they will be removed from the board.  No battle is allowed in
these territories.  Contested movement restriction (pg 15) does not apply.
    f.  Controlled by Russians only…
        1.  Add 1 Russian infantry in none exists.  Entry by AP/CP powers is forbidden.

I favour a system where the CPs have to hold X number of VCs at the end of turn Y to have won. It is essentially a curve based on the extent of expansion they are expected to have reached after a specific number of rounds.

In the designer’s Tournament rules (which can be found here), any power can collapse, and Russia has no special rules (the Russian Revolution rules are not used).

Thanks for sharing.  I’m always interested in new ways to improve this game while keeping it simple enough for a first or second time player to understand.  The CP’s are certainly in need of help.  But that help must not come at the expense of game play balance or time.  Most of my friends and family that I convince to play with me get “worn out” after a few hours.  We have waited so long for a A&A WWI game and now we finally have one, we just need to tweak it a little more to make it work the best.

I don’t find the number of chips to be a problem with anything other than infantry, and I have another colour (MB version white) for 10 infantry.

Two or three large stacks in a region are much less of a problem than 7 or 8 medium ones.

@KimRYoung:

Question,

Since you used the optional Russian Revolution rules, did youuse the rules from the game, or the new revisions from Krieg?

Thanks, looks like you had a great game!

Kim

Thanks, Kim.  I used the Russian Revolution rules from Krieg, which is great because that is how I was planning on playing anyway.  Make no mistake, RR is a GREAT thing for the Central Powers.  (Frankly, I think I even prefer it over capturing Moscow in retrospect.)

They probably should have, but they didn’t, so as the rules read right now (and even as they read in the book) there are plenty of situations when the Russian player might voluntarily choose not to counterattack a province because the Revolution is preferable to the capture of Moscow from an Allied standpoint.

At least they fixed the other problems with the Russian Revolution as written in the rulebook.