1941 Set Up video

About Axis and allies 1941
Much has been criticized about this version, and much of the criticism is correct, because it fails in its main premise: to be a gateway for new players.

-A manual that wastes a LOT of space, and does not include a complete developing of each face for a power as a example. It also does not include a glossary showing what the unit models are, such as if it is at the end of the 1940 manual. It does not include an IPC management table and industrial capacity, as if there were in 1940, for photocopying.
-There are no aid cards for players.
-And yes, there are not enough pieces to play optimally.
All this makes new people get a bad impression of the franchise, even asking, if the other versions have the same shortcomings. Now, videos say that there are missing pieces to play well, but they don’t say which ones or how many.

Those are my ideas:
How many more pieces should the edition have (or you need to add).
11 more gray chips
1 die
1 infantry and 1 destroyer, for USA
1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 transport, for Japan
1 submarine for Germany
1 USSR infantry
What pieces to subtract:
2 green chips
1 USSR submarine
2 USSR transports

If Zombies has money, I don’t understand why not 1941, which is supposed to be a more important issue, because it is introductory. They require:
18 CPI of 1
5 CPI of 5
5 CPI of 10

I would also add aeronautical movement counters, as in the revised edition:
4 of 1, 4 of 2, 2 of 3, 2 of 4

I tink a new production an sell cost increase, but now is in Amazon $18us, with those new pieces i believe, no more of $28us. ¿What do you think?

Thanks for the help and thank you!

@Red:

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I attack German Held West Russia with all units from Karelia, Archangel and the Tanks and fighter from Russia and Caucasus

Say after 1 round of attack, I have killed two German Infantry leaving 1.   I want to retreat after reducing the enemy force concentration.

The rules read that all units must withdraw to one friendly place.  I choose Archangel.  
So the infantry are then done moving having used 1 movement to the attack. (And since I committed everyone from Karelia, the space is now empty).

The tanks should still have 1 movement available each so I could move them to Russia?  The Fighter has 3 movement so I could place it at Russia or Caucasus?

Just trying to understand the movement rules for retreating.  not saying I like the attack scenario itself!

@Bob77:

All the units would retreat together, to a territory where they came from.
Since you had units in the attack from archangel, you may choose archangel. BUT all retreating units must go to archangel, tanks and fighters too.
If you had the same scenario, but had amphibious troops as well, the amphibious troops may not retreat but all others may go to archangel.

From the rulebook:

@rulebook:

Condition B�Attacker Retreats
The attacker (never the defender) can retreat during this step.
Land and Sea Units: Move all attacking land and sea units in that combat that are along the battle strip to a single adjacent
friendly space from or through which at least one of the original attacking land or sea units moved. In the case of sea units,
that space must have been friendly at the start of the turn. All such units must retreat together to the same space, regardless of
where they came from.

Air Units: Retreating air units remain in the contested space temporarily. They complete their retreat movement during the
Noncombat Move phase using the same rules as air units involved in a successful battle.

So remaining land units retreat together to a single adjacent friendly space from or through which at least one of the original attacking land unit came from.

Air units retreat independently during Non Combat Move Phase being allowed to use all their remaining movement points,

so yes to
@Red:

The Fighter has 3 movement so I could place it at Russia or Caucasus?

but no to
@Red:

The tanks should still have 1 movement available each so I could move them to Russia?

as no unit - except air units - may move during as well Combat Move Phase as Noncombat Move Phase.

whole new beginner level game.

Don’t think about the actual game, and just think about the BOX.  If the BOX is the same - and the title, and it’s categorized as a first or second edition, then it IS the same -version-, by definition.

Just like ALL editions of Classic are lumped into one category, so should Spring 1942 be. And so should Global be.

They are loosely the same map/base game, with adjusted rules.

Also, if you’re going to lump revised in with 1942, that’s the same as lumping all of them in with Classic?  Roughly similar map, same powers, same concept. Crazy!
:(

V1 - Classic
V2 - Revised
V3 - Anniversary (1941)
V3 - Anniversary (1942)
V4 - Spring 1942
V4 - Spring 1942 (Second Edition)
V5 - 1941

Simple, elegant, beautiful, perfect. no?

I never took you for an ageist!
Color me disappointed.

Victory conditions are: if you can get a new friend to play this shorter version, you win!

Actually, the first one to flip the board loses.

No really, first one to own 5 battleships on the board wins! Ha!

I could go all day …

The real answer is capitals, that’s all I’ll say for now.