… Back to the European half of the G40 board…
Another intriguing possibility arising out of a significant Axis presence in South America is a pathway to an option for German Government in Exile in… you guessed it: Argentina.
Italy as an Allied NO
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Sicily as an allied NO, that’s just cool.
There’s a lot of axis NO’s to reflect ‘historical importance’ that make no sense at all in the game. Therefore the allies deserve some nonsensical NO’s as well, just to reflect historical importance. Sicily would fit perfectly in, because without a NO, the allies have no reason to invade it. -
At the very least controlling Sicily should be a prerequisite for invading Southern Italy. Perhaps UK Europe could get a NO that mirrors Italy’s for control of the Mediterranean (provided UK controls Gibraltar and Egypt) since it was such a vital supply route.
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If Uk control all of this start territory in med and if allied invade sicily, Uk gain 5 ipc. If allied invade South Italy, Uk gain a 5 ipc more. This is my No for Uk in med.
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$5 NO for allied control of Sicily. AWESOME cool idea.
USA (Patton) or UK (Montgomery) should be able to collect it, whichever gets sicily first.
To balance that, how about giving Japan a $5 NO for control of Solomon Islands. Add some more history to it
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I think Allies are in desparate need of more balance in Europe so giving them ‘NO Sicily’ sounds like an effort to achieve that.
Axis do not need another NO for balance reasons, which is already too much in their favor. However, since the very high IPC-value of the DEI already reflects the historic importance of those islands, why not remove this NO and give that to the Solomons…
That’ll give Japan 15ipcs for controlling the DEI, but adds a +5 NO to the Solomons.
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I agree, the Allies should have a stronger incentive to actually knock Italy out of the war instead of just neutralizing them with convoy raids and then ignoring them. If included as an NO it might be cool to involve Sicily, to give it a reason for existing as a separate territory, and to make for a more historical invasion pattern creeping up the boot.
I’m also wondering if this could also have a second benefit. Young Grasshopper noted in a different post that whoever plays Italy in G40 – at least in his gaming group – tends to feel that he’s gotten stuck with an uninteresting power. If Sicily and/or Italy were made NOs for the Allies for the purpose of giving them some badly-needed additional NOs, could this also result (either inherently or through the addition of a further HR element of some sort) in the role of Italy being increased and thus make playing Italy more interesting for whoever gets assigned to that power?
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Hi  all. Thanks for your posts.
I do feel the UK needs an extra bonus and I believe most of us like the “No Subs in the Atlantic” best. I do feel however, if Germany is allowed to get so many NOs for the oil rich Tts, a balancing one is needed for the Allies. Italy, Sicily, Greece, they all work for me.ItIsILeclerc: I agree that Japan, could lose the DEI NO and one for the Solomons, so heavily fought over in WW2, seems a good swap. Problem with the DEI, is that they have got more and more wealthy IPC wise as the games have gone on. I would agree a NO for the DEI would be a fair thing, if the islands themselves were worth less.
Good point Marc. Might make the Germans defend Italy with those reconstituted Stalingrad Pz and Pzg Divisions.
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I don’t really think that the game is really designed to be fun for 1 person to just be playing Italy. We’ve found in our gaming groups that anytime you have more than 4 people playing the game total, at least 1 person always gets bored.
Anyway, my point is that if you are going to develop rules to try and balance the game, worry about game balance, not how fun it is to play one particular power. If it turns out that having an incredibly weak and boring Italy is what it takes to have good game balance, then go for it.
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For the bank of Italy as a bonus… Italy have not a big cash at all… Italy buy every turn the max of unit i can. Is just my observation.
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How about if you capture Sicily the Italian player has to toss a coin. If it’s heads the King arrests Mussolini and Italy becomes neutral.
If Germany sends units into neutral Italy (or leaves units there on a German turn after Italy becomes neutral) then Italy joins the Allies.
Maybe give the Axis one full turn to recapture Sicily before Mussolini gets the boot.
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