Paris Riots

I can see it now…

November 5th, 2005: France Surrenders.

@DarthMaximus:

Is this going to get worse?  Or are the French just hoping it will die down on its own? …
Could this escalate into something bigger?

They hoped it would die down. It did not, but escalated to more cities. There is no organisation behind it, so i think it will die down sooner or later.

I mean, you know what happens in slums when the police is seen/taped beating up innocents or is made responsible for the death of young boys.

Just the same here, just a few years later.

Yanny: I  still wait …

You know F_alk - i wouldn’t read the same interpretation into Yanny’s comment that you did.  I actually found it pretty funny.
It’s not saying that the French are cowards, but it does point out the fact that historically they have tended to surrender pretty easily (although not as easily as the Italians did . . . ).

F_alk, I am French :) Of the Canadian variety… even worse.

@Yanny:

F_alk, I am French :) Of the Canadian variety… even worse.

:-o
traître!
:evil:

fun with smileys . . .

Yanny … if you say so …  :|

anyway, the trouble went into the inner city. Still unorganized, and the media seem to cover manily burning schools, kindergartens etc, and less burning police stations. I wonder wether the rioters are so stupid in their choice of what they attack or wether this is a drive to lessen / extinguish support for the riots by the rest of the population.

I heard that some rioters set a women on crutches on fire! :cry: Now thats just low.

No reports on what marine said.
Yet, first use of shotguns and rifles.
First signs of organisation via SMS and internet blogs.
Rioters looked for the direct confrontation with police forces last night.
First dead, a man who was hit by a stone in one of the first nights. After days in coma he died.
More than 400 rioters arrested last night, 30 cops injured.

Hard to say how it will evolve. I thought it would die down “quickly”… it seems that the “iron hand” of Sarkozy and calling the youth there scum/rabble doesn’t help. I wonder what would have happened if Sarkozy instead had said after the one ofthe first nights “yes, maybe the police is quilty of the death of the two boys. We will investigate”

Sounds a lot like the race riots in Newark that I’ve heard stories about.

Those lasted for months.

If they last for over six weeks, look out for white flags.

Some common terrorist expert(Ha!) is trying to take credit for predicting this…
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47259

I seem to recall someone else had concerns months ago.
Now, who was it?
…
(Cogitate, reflect.)
…
(Think.)
…
Oh, yeah!
It was ME!

More update.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47258

More Muslim activity…
(Pirates…my sphincter!

@Yanny:

If they last for over six weeks, look out for white flags.

Repetition doesn’t make it intelligent, so …. the “intelligent jokes by USans” count is still at “0”.

WTF is this “intelligent joke” thing!!!??? As I recall, the funniest people in the world come from the U.S. so shut up already and lets get back to the original topic!!!

It’s been over 13 days and finally:

“French Cabinet approves curfew measures to curb violent riots that have spread across the country” – Fox News

After 13 days?  This is a prime example of what to expect from a socialist French goverment.  Sit on your butt and hope for the best.

By the way, how many times have you heard in the media that these acts of terror are being committed by muslims?  As angered as I am that muslims are again on the rampage, I am sitting back and silently hoping that France burns to the ground for all their anti-Americanism.

Rune Blade

The French probably thought the same thing after Katrina. “Five days to get food and water to people? Just what you would expect from Bush and company”.

Good thing Bush appointed “Fashion God” Michael “Brownie” Brown to run FEMA, eh?

Mary, once again your ingnorance is unparralleled.

For one, comparing what happened to Katrina with muslims burning cities to the ground is a stretch.

Second, let’s talk about Katrina for a bit.  It is the PRIMARY responsibility of the State and Local goverment to supply food and water to their people.  NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERMENT!!!  On that bright and cheery note, state representatives even prevented food from teh Red Cross to be distributed at the stadium because they didn’t want any more people showing up there.  Very compationate liberals wouldn’t you say?  Stay with me, Mary because this is crucial for your education.  The whole situation in Louisiana could have been instantly solved if the Governor had called in the national guard.  Instead, what did that liberal woman do?  She threw up her hands and said, "Federal goverment, please come and save me and my state."  She didn’t even make an attempt to help those people in Louisiana.  Let’s talk about the mayor for a minute as well or should I say, the lack of one since he and his family high-tailed it out of there into Texas and let New Orleans suffer its fate.  And let’s not forget all the state revenue that was supposed to go to reinforcing the levies.  Where did it go?  To new casinos in New Orleans!  Brillian liberal thinking.  And now that Casino is destroyed!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Let’s compare a republican state like Texas to a liberal one like Louisiana for a minute as well Mary and you’ll see that you’re way off base here in terms of your liberal philosophy.

Texas:
Orderly evacuation.   
Told people to stay away even after the hurricane was gone due to danger.
6 looters - all arrested
Republican mayor last to leave.
Texas looked after its own.
No deaths.

Louisiana:
No evacuation.
Mayor told people to come on back eventhough another hurricane was heading that way and Bush had to step in and say, "No!"   (You won’t give Bush the credit for that I fear.)
Lots of looters, no arrests
Liberal mayor first to leave.
Louisiana immediately threw up hands and begged for federal assistance.  No state or local attempt to help people in New Orleans or surrounding areas (Cops went AWOL).
Needless deaths (expecially of the elderly)

I could go on Mary, but I’m putting you to shame.  The point is the reason Texas is so successful and Louisiana is underwater is because TEXAS IS A REPUBLICAN STATE!!!  Did you know that the lowest crime rate is in Texas?  Why?  Because people can carry handguns.  Washington, DC (A liberal district) does not allow people to carry guns and has one of the highests rates of crime in the nation.  Cooincidence, I think not.

Parallel to France:  Socialist goverment.  People can’t bear arms.  No military whatsoever.  No political backbone = NO PROTECTION FOR THE PEOPLE WHEN MUSLIM TERRORISTS ATTACK!

Let’s talk about FEMA, it’s own policy stated that it couldn’t offer substantial assistance until 72 hours later.  DUH!  They’re expecting state and local goverments to handle things so aid can come in from FEMA.  Apparently liberal politicians are too dumb to realize that.

FEDERAL GOVERMENT IS NOT A FIRST CALL ORGANIZATION FOR LOCAL DISASTERS!!!Â

Okay Mary, that’s one for me, zero for you!

Rune Blade
The master of debate

Hey, no need to get so hostile.  Anyway, according to the FBI, the Northeast as a region maintains the lowest rate of violent crime in the country for 2004.  Texas is certainly lower than DC, but much higher than many of the traditionally Blue states.  South Carolina, Tennessee and a bunch of other Red states do likewise.  It’s one of the reasons cited for the ineffectiveness of the death penalty and gun ownership in deterring crime.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/offense_tabulations/table_04.html
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/offense_tabulations/table_05.html

Don’t really want to get involved in this discussion, but be careful with those numbers.  And maybe you should clarify what exactly you mean by a liberal mentality versus a conservative one when it comes to this issue.  After all, in terms of contribution to the national debt, Red states are generally in the hole while Blue ones are in the black.  I think this is a simplistic correlation, but does that mean that we should all be adopting “liberal” policies because they are economically solvent?  I don’t think you’ll take that line, but you’ve got to be more precise about what you’re talking about.

The funny thing about these French riots is the fact that the political leadership of Jack in the box Chirac is doing nothing about it, because it allready has probably capitulated and flown back flown back to southern france to restart another Vichy France thing. If this problem happened in America, Bush would have sent in the military and we would be done with them. But France has no policy to fight against agression, rather it wants to appease itself with just “allowing” the problem to solve itself. No wonder they opposed Iraq…they have not the means to defend even themselves from revolution. Excellent!