• Well, my map is custom - I took out Scotland as I wanted more room for the UK capital and also more defense for the UK - only one land zone to defend - but Ireland is separated like this:

    I know it was historically called Eire but I got tired of the guys looking at it blankly and trying to pronounce it.


  • Ok, sort of unrelated, but how do you customize maps?


  • The OOB map is definitely wrong to label the beige northeast corner of the island of Ireland as being part of Scotland – a gaffe that probably annoys the Scots as much as the Irish – and I also find that the map confuses things further by putting a British roundel on top of the straight that separates Ireland from Scotland, thus creating the impression that they are part of a single land mass.  So in that respect, Der Kunstler’s customization is quite helpful.  I think a further improvement would be to modify Ireland (which DK correctly shows to be an island) to make it look the way the Iberian Peninsula is depicted on the map: much of it consisting of Spain, which is one of the three types of neutrals in the game, but with a British enclave (Gibraltar) in one corner of its territory.  “Ireland” is the name of the island as a whole; Eire is the name of the pro-Allied neutral Irish Republic that comprises most (but not all) of the island; and the British northeast corner of the island is called Northern Ireland.  That would be strictly speaking the most historically accurate treatment – though not necessarily the optimal treatment in terms of game simplicity.


  • @DessertFox599:

    Ok, sort of unrelated, but how do you customize maps?

    I customized mine by downloading one of Imperious Leader’s maps and using Photoshop, with his permission. Then you can take it to a printer and have them print it.


  • @CWO:

    The OOB map is definitely wrong to label the beige northeast corner of the island of Ireland as being part of Scotland – a gaffe that probably annoys the Scots as much as the Irish – and I also find that the map confuses things further by putting a British roundel on top of the straight that separates Ireland from Scotland, thus creating the impression that they are part of a single land mass.  So in that respect, Der Kunstler’s customization is quite helpful.  I think a further improvement would be to modify Ireland (which DK correctly shows to be an island) to make it look the way the Iberian Peninsula is depicted on the map: much of it consisting of Spain, which is one of the three types of neutrals in the game, but with a British enclave (Gibraltar) in one corner of its territory.  “Ireland” is the name of the island as a whole; Eire is the name of the pro-Allied neutral Irish Republic that comprises most (but not all) of the island; and the British northeast corner of the island is called Northern Ireland.  That would be strictly speaking the most historically accurate treatment – though not necessarily the optimal treatment in terms of game simplicity.

    Thanks for the proper info on that - IMO Northern Island is so small that for gameplay purposes it causes more problems to have there than it solves.


  • @Der:

    @CWO:

    The OOB map is definitely wrong to label the beige northeast corner of the island of Ireland as being part of Scotland – a gaffe that probably annoys the Scots as much as the Irish – and I also find that the map confuses things further by putting a British roundel on top of the straight that separates Ireland from Scotland, thus creating the impression that they are part of a single land mass.  So in that respect, Der Kunstler’s customization is quite helpful.  I think a further improvement would be to modify Ireland (which DK correctly shows to be an island) to make it look the way the Iberian Peninsula is depicted on the map: much of it consisting of Spain, which is one of the three types of neutrals in the game, but with a British enclave (Gibraltar) in one corner of its territory.  “Ireland” is the name of the island as a whole; Eire is the name of the pro-Allied neutral Irish Republic that comprises most (but not all) of the island; and the British northeast corner of the island is called Northern Ireland.  That would be strictly speaking the most historically accurate treatment – though not necessarily the optimal treatment in terms of game simplicity.

    Thanks for the proper info on that - IMO Northern Island is so small that for gameplay purposes it causes more problems to have there than it solves.

    I agree with that, dont really see the strategic value for gameplay purposes either with a Northern Ireland. Tho i really think Scotland plays a role and i will keep it! :) What do you guys think of the SZ border if Ireland is a single neutral territory island? Should the SZ border meet with the Scotish/UK land border or just meet the Scotish border so you can go from SZ 109 to Scotland?

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    On top of that it is silly to have the territory comprising of England and Wales be called “United Kingdom.” They could have just called it England (sorry Welsh).


  • This is how i made it, I think it will work ok! :)


  • Hmmm…I can’t see it - there’s just a black “X” there…


  • Sorry, bad link, fixed it! :)


  • Looks great!

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