Paratroopers for Global



  • @Tall:

    ––I have some DEFINATE preferences,…IMHO:
    *Only Air Transports can be used for (n/c)Air Transport or ©Paratroop Drops, no Bombers ever
    *Air Transports must begin from an Air Base
    *Only ONE Paratrooper per Air Transport
    *Air Transports should be allowed to be purchased from the start of the game. IMHO when we require the purchase of Air Transports and use of Air Bases this should be enough of an “investment” requirement
    *A maximum of FOUR (4) Paratroopers per nation except China
    *Paratroopers can conquer a National Capital ONLY in conjunction with other forces jointly, not as a solo attack

    I agree with almost everything but the purchasing limit. There are no limits on Battleships or tanks, so why limit the Paratrooper ? Should there be a limit on transport planes too ? You can buy 10 Transport planes, but only 4 Paratroopers ? No sir, if I run a nation, and I want to spend all my dollars on Transport planes and Paratroopers, who would stop me ? I don’t sit there as a cry baby if you spend all your dollars on Battleships.



  • Great sculpts Tall Paul.

    So it sounds like it wouldn’t be a big deal to bump the OOB rule to 3 infantry instead of 2 (considering how liberal people feel about unlimited troops).


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    @Narvik:

    I agree with almost everything but the purchasing limit. There are no limits on Battleships or tanks, so why limit the Paratrooper ? Should there be a limit on transport planes too ? You can buy 10 Transport planes, but only 4 Paratroopers ? No sir, if I run a nation, and I want to spend all my dollars on Transport planes and Paratroopers, who would stop me ? I don’t sit there as a cry baby if you spend all your dollars on Battleships.

    I agree with you Narvik. We don’t limit the number of paratroopers any nation may have at one time. Since you need transport planes to move the paratroopers, the only limit is how many paratroopers and transport planes you can buy.
    We only limit the special/elite units (US Marines, UK Commandos, Russian Guards, German SS, Japanese SNLF) because they have a little better attack or defense values plus some sort of special ability. Even though they are a little more expensive, it would just seem kind of silly for some nation to have a whole army of elite troopers.


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    Gentlemen,

    @knp7765:

    We only limit the special/elite units (US Marines, UK Commandos, Russian Guards, German SS, Japanese SNLF) because they have a little better attack or defense values plus some sort of special ability. Even though they are a little more expensive, it would just seem kind of silly for some nation to have a whole army of elite troopers.

    ––I believe that by anyone’s definition Paratroopers would be considered “Special/Elite” units. And as such it seems only logical that they should also be limited in number just like the other “Special/Elite” units are simply to keep the game from becomming unbalenced. This is a gameplay balancing issue,….but
    ---- I might refer to the real world history as a guide because there were usually about 25 times more line Infantry units than there were Airborne units. One of the main reasons for this was simply that the Airborne units took the “cream of crop” best soldiers,…and there were only so many of them.
    ----Possibly the MAXIMUM number of Airborne units could be raised to SIX.

    ––I believe discussion is a GREAT thing, as long as it is open, honest, and contrinutes to the ‘cause’ without becoming personal or bitter. Even if something is 180 per cent wrong by your opinion you’re always free to make whatever house rule YOU like for your own games.

    Tall Paul


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    Tall Paul,
    I understand what you are saying and I do consider airborne to be a type of “Elite/Special” unit. In our games, airborne units HAVE to be taken by transport planes AND only 1 paratroop is allowed per transport plane. So, for each paratroop drop you are looking at an investment of 13 IPCs each (4 IPCs = paratroop, 9 IPCs = transport plane).
    So, even in the case of the US that starts with 52 IPCs, if they wanted to spend their entire IPCs on paratroops, they could only get 4 paratroops plus 4 transport planes.
    In effect, the requirement to purchase a transport with each paratrooper places a limit on the number of paratroops any nation can have on the board at one time.
    Granted, I guess a nation could keep buying transports and paratroops over several rounds resulting in one country having a whole bunch of paratroops. However, that would probably be an unwise strategy for any of the nations to buy paratroops and transports only. No tanks for Germany? No combat aircraft for UK? No warships for US or Japan?
    I think the other nations would welcome such a development. “Oh, you have a bunch of paratroops and transport planes? Good! Now I’m going to invade you with my stack of tanks and mechs.”

    Now, perhaps you don’t use the transport aircraft and simply have the airborne units launch themselves from air bases (like the OOB tech rules)? In that case, I could understand a rule limiting airborne units to a certain number like with any other “Special/Elite” units.
    By the way, do you use other elite units like SS, Guards, Marines, etc.?



  • @knp7765:

    Granted, I guess a nation could keep buying transports and paratroops over several rounds resulting in one country having a whole bunch of paratroops. However, that would probably be an unwise strategy for any of the nations to buy paratroops and transports only. No tanks for Germany? No combat aircraft for UK? No warships for US or Japan?
    I think the other nations would welcome such a development. “Oh, you have a bunch of paratroops and transport planes? Good! Now I’m going to invade you with my stack of tanks and mechs.”

    This made me laugh!

    I think paratroopers are definitely elite divisions - look at the falschirmjaegers - hence the increased attack capacity. However, i agree with knp7765 that the number should not be restricted. If any nation took the extra time and resources (represented by 1 extra IPC of cost) to train and equip all their combat troops as such, they could definitely do so and make an ‘elite army’. Historically, the Wermacht started out as a highly disciplined, trained, and motivated force as a whole that swept up inferior armies, because they knew they couldnt match the rest of Europe man-for-man. As Germany became short on time and resources, however, they could no longer train their men so well, and the overall quality decreased drastically. Of course, one ‘infantry’ for Russia may include twice as many men as a german ‘infantry’, but have half as much quality, so be worth the same; which is why all german units do not start out as ‘elite units’.

    Just my 2 cents.


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    @knp7765:

    I think the other nations would welcome such a development. “Oh, you have a bunch of paratroops and transport planes? Good! Now I’m going to invade you with my stack of tanks and mechs.”

    Yes, this would echo the principle of unequal force ratios stated in the proverbial Law of the Sword, which says “The guy with the gun usually wins.” Â


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