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Use Your Old AA Guns.


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    As a piece collector with a ton of pieces, I was thinking of all uses of the old AA guns. So I decided to use them as piece to upgrade transports.

    How it works:

    Armed Transports- For 5 IPCs you may upgrade you transport to A1/D1/M2/C7+5

    You will use the old AA gun to mark that it is armed. It cannot be removed and the modification is non-transferable.

    Cargo is limited to 1 land unit.

    It is has no bombardment, ASW, commerce raiding or any other special ability other than it may attack as well as defend as well as transport one ground unit.

    It still remains the last casualty taken as per OOB rules.

    Edit: This is more geared as a “fun” idea not to be taken too seriously. Please feel free to post any other ideas that involve your old AA guns.


  • 2017 2016

    This AKA (attacking Cargo Ships) is not cheap and loose too much transport capacity.


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    LOL yes I know Baron. It’s not meant to be a very serious rule


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    Second Idea:

    Coastal Guns-

    A4/D4/M0/C15

    Coastal guns may fire at warships in adjacent sea zones at a range of one. They may be used defensively or offensively. However surface warships may return fire and destroy coastal guns.

    The may be built on any territory with a coastline or island.

    The limit of guns per TT is the TT value, a limit of one is permitted on coastal TTs and islands that have no IPC value.

    They are considered a immobile unit that can be destroyed.

    When encountering an amphibious assault, it negates enemy shore bombardment as the attacking force must engage it as if it were a naval battle.

    They are not captured as they are considered an immobile land unit.

    They may be taken as a casualty, but do not participate in standard land battles.

    They cannot be strategically bombed.

    They cannot blockade a SZ i.e. they cannot stop the building of ships even though an enemy TT may also border a SZ within range of the guns.


  • 2017 2016 2015 Organizer '14 Customizer '13 '12 '11 '10

    In the Milton Bradley days they used to call this the “Q-ship” rule. Usually because the game had no destroyers or cruisers. I don’t think its needed IMO


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    @Imperious:

    In the Milton Bradley days they used to call this the “Q-ship” rule. Usually because the game had no destroyers or cruisers. I don’t think its needed IMO

    It’s not really. The idea came from an Axis & Allies knock-off set in the modern era. It hat game you could buy a AAA missle and attach it to your naval vessels.

    I have a huge stock of pieces and I have wanted to do something with my AA guns from the older editions.


  • 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015 '14 Customizer '13 '12 '11 '10

    One way I’ve used my old generic AAA pieces (like you, I have a considerable stock of these units) is to combine them with other light grey pieces from other sources (mainly HBG and The War Game: WWII) to create a light-grey Neutral Powers / Other Powers set.  The inclusion of the old AAA sculpts allows me to provide this artificial set with at least one genuine A&A OOB component, which is a connection that I like to have just as a matter of personal preference.



  • I use them for the Radar tech


  • Customizer

    @CWO:

    One way I’ve used my old generic AAA pieces (like you, I have a considerable stock of these units) is to combine them with other light grey pieces from other sources (mainly HBG and The War Game: WWII) to create a light-grey Neutral Powers / Other Powers set.  The inclusion of the old AAA sculpts allows me to provide this artificial set with at least one genuine A&A OOB component, which is a connection that I like to have just as a matter of personal preference.

    Lol I never even thought of that!


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    @Yavid:

    I use them for the Radar tech

    I thought of something similar,  but I also have the radar dishes from Fortress America to use. That still may be a good idea for a tech though.



  • @toblerone77:

    @Yavid:

    I use them for the Radar tech

    I thought of something similar,  but I also have the radar dishes from Fortress America to use. That still may be a good idea for a tech though.

    speaking of Fortress America is there any really good pieces a piece junkie can steal out of the game?


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    @Yavid:

    @toblerone77:

    @Yavid:

    I use them for the Radar tech

    I thought of something similar,�  but I also have the radar dishes from Fortress America to use. That still may be a good idea for a tech though.

    speaking of Fortress America is there any really good pieces a piece junkie can steal out of the game?

    Those city pieces look pretty cool imo:
    http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1334266_md.jpg


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    @Yavid:

    @toblerone77:

    @Yavid:

    I use them for the Radar tech

    I thought of something similar,�  but I also have the radar dishes from Fortress America to use. That still may be a good idea for a tech though.

    speaking of Fortress America is there any really good pieces a piece junkie can steal out of the game?

    The city and partisan pieces are pretty good.


  • Customizer

    @toblerone77:

    @Yavid:

    @toblerone77:

    @Yavid:

    I use them for the Radar tech

    I thought of something similar,��  but I also have the radar dishes from Fortress America to use. That still may be a good idea for a tech though.

    speaking of Fortress America is there any really good pieces a piece junkie can steal out of the game?

    The city and partisan pieces are pretty good.

    Do you know how many of each the game comes with? I’ve never played or purchased this one, might have to take a look.


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    @Baron:

    This AKA (attacking Cargo Ships) is not cheap and loose too much transport capacity.

    HBG will be producing armed transports in the near future.


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    @ossel:

    @toblerone77:

    @Yavid:

    @toblerone77:

    @Yavid:

    I use them for the Radar tech

    I thought of something similar,��  but I also have the radar dishes from Fortress America to use. That still may be a good idea for a tech though.

    speaking of Fortress America is there any really good pieces a piece junkie can steal out of the game?

    The city and partisan pieces are pretty good.

    Do you know how many of each the game comes with? I’ve never played or purchased this one, might have to take a look.

    I’m not really sure about the FA cities but I think the game came with 18-24 I’m not sure. Mine was a yard sale copy I bought for parts. If we’re talking AA guns, the standard was 12.



  • I’m considering buying the game to steal the pieces from it.


  • Customizer

    If you just want the cities I’d buy the new edition from Fantasy Flight games. The cities in that look a bit cooler. The pieces in it are almost too large to do anything with. For other buildings there’s Age of Imperialism. There’s a lot of cool bits in there too.



  • Ikusa for Major Industrial complexes in Asia seems cool too, Risk pieces for other places.


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    @Yavid:

    Ikusa for Major Industrial complexes in Asia seems cool too, Risk pieces for other places.

    Hmmm never thought of that.


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    Just a heads up; the game is going for $35 on Amazon…much better price then the $80 on FFG’s website. Thinking of getting it to scavenge parts from as well…those city pieces are damn sexy.


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    Went ahead and bought the game…there are definitely some interesting pieces in there, but the city markers are the highlight. I will definitely be using these in my Global games to mark victory cities.

    I’m also VERY interested in providing 3D models for nation-specific Victory City markers (as I’ve posted here: http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=27911.msg1270732#msg1270732). I wonder what you guys think about that idea.

    EDIT: I’ve started a thread to discuss this here: http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=33379.0


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    I have got both versions of Fortress America. The new version has exactly 30 city pieces to match the 30 US cities that the invaders have to capture. The old version from Milton Bradley had something like 32 city pieces. That version had a few extra pieces in all the colors which is a rare thing. Games now days tend to just include the number of pieces that you need to play the game. If you accidentally lose a piece or two, you are just SOL.
    With the new Fortress America game, I agree with toblerone77. The city pieces do look a little cooler. I really like the laser complexes in the new game. They come in 3 pieces and you have to put them together. They are kind of big but look really cool. Maybe you could use those as some sort of “super cannon” in A&A. Range of 10 spaces. Hit on a 5 or less. Destroys all units in a territory. Lays waste to everything!
    I got the city pieces from RISK a while back. I was using them for Major ICs, but now I use them for Mid-Level ICs. For Major and Minor ICs, I use the colored factories from “The War Game: World War 2”. They look really good, problem is there is a limited number of factory pieces. The US dark green has plenty, more than you need. There are a lot of dark grey for Germany, but you can run out of the minor ICs if Germany is successful at expanding. During the game, I like to remove the colored factory of the original owner and replace it with the colored factory of the conqueror. If Germany really expands, that would mean 7 minor ICs (3 in France, 4 in Russia) and that is without Germany buying any new factories or conquering Allied factories that were purchased. I think there is only 6 or 8 dark grey minor ICs.
    Russia and Italy have to share the brown factories, which only works because Italy has 1 major and 1 minor. There seems to be plenty of tan (UK) and yellow (Japan) ICs. There are no Majors in blue (France) so to start out the game I have to use the light grey for France’s major IC. There really is no minor IC for ANZAC as The War Game doesn’t have that particular color, so I use the original IC pieces for ANZAC’s minor.
    The other problem with The War Game for anyone who doesn’t have one is that it is expensive. I think I spent a little over $200 for one copy of the game, one set of extra pieces and shipping. The War Game looks pretty cool. Very similar to A&A but there are a number of different rules, like defender retreats and 2-step naval attacks (which would eliminate blockers in a lot of cases). The pieces look really cool with great detail but most are somewhat bigger than A&A pieces and all units for all countries are German sculpts in different colors. All carriers are Graf Zeppelin, all Battleships are Bismarck, all tanks are Tiger, etc. They even have a Maus heavy tank and Me262 Jet fighter.
    Also, the game board is HUGE. About the same size as HBG’s 1939 map in the large size, close to 8 ft. x 4 ft.
    Anyway, if some of you happen to have that game, the ICs are pretty cool looking. Although, it looks like in a few months or so HBG will fix the problem of different types of ICs along with other neat facilities too.



  • @knp7765:

    I have got both versions of Fortress America. The new version has exactly 30 city pieces to match the 30 US cities that the invaders have to capture. The old version from Milton Bradley had something like 32 city pieces. That version had a few extra pieces in all the colors which is a rare thing. Games now days tend to just include the number of pieces that you need to play the game. If you accidentally lose a piece or two, you are just SOL.
    With the new Fortress America game, I agree with toblerone77. The city pieces do look a little cooler. I really like the laser complexes in the new game. They come in 3 pieces and you have to put them together. They are kind of big but look really cool. Maybe you could use those as some sort of “super cannon” in A&A. Range of 10 spaces. Hit on a 5 or less. Destroys all units in a territory. Lays waste to everything!
    I got the city pieces from RISK a while back. I was using them for Major ICs, but now I use them for Mid-Level ICs. For Major and Minor ICs, I use the colored factories from “The War Game: World War 2”. They look really good, problem is there is a limited number of factory pieces. The US dark green has plenty, more than you need. There are a lot of dark grey for Germany, but you can run out of the minor ICs if Germany is successful at expanding. During the game, I like to remove the colored factory of the original owner and replace it with the colored factory of the conqueror. If Germany really expands, that would mean 7 minor ICs (3 in France, 4 in Russia) and that is without Germany buying any new factories or conquering Allied factories that were purchased. I think there is only 6 or 8 dark grey minor ICs.
    Russia and Italy have to share the brown factories, which only works because Italy has 1 major and 1 minor. There seems to be plenty of tan (UK) and yellow (Japan) ICs. There are no Majors in blue (France) so to start out the game I have to use the light grey for France’s major IC. There really is no minor IC for ANZAC as The War Game doesn’t have that particular color, so I use the original IC pieces for ANZAC’s minor.
    The other problem with The War Game for anyone who doesn’t have one is that it is expensive. I think I spent a little over $200 for one copy of the game, one set of extra pieces and shipping. The War Game looks pretty cool. Very similar to A&A but there are a number of different rules, like defender retreats and 2-step naval attacks (which would eliminate blockers in a lot of cases). The pieces look really cool with great detail but most are somewhat bigger than A&A pieces and all units for all countries are German sculpts in different colors. All carriers are Graf Zeppelin, all Battleships are Bismarck, all tanks are Tiger, etc. They even have a Maus heavy tank and Me262 Jet fighter.
    Also, the game board is HUGE. About the same size as HBG’s 1939 map in the large size, close to 8 ft. x 4 ft.
    Anyway, if some of you happen to have that game, the ICs are pretty cool looking. Although, it looks like in a few months or so HBG will fix the problem of different types of ICs along with other neat facilities too.

    do you have a link for “The War Game: World War 2” I want to check it out but can’t seem to find it.


  • 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015 '14 Customizer '13 '12 '11 '10

    @Yavid:

    do you have a link for “The War Game: World War 2” I want to check it out but can’t seem to find it.

    http://www.thewargame.com/


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