Canada's response to Katrina:

@F_alk:

@Jennifer:

I’m not argueing it wasn’t conquered by the French, Hax. I’m saying it isn’t French and neither was Napoleon. He was a corsican living in a conquered territory who rose to power because the French were too inept to stop him.

There are no United States. Just a bunch of uncivilized colonists who have conquered some land from the savages……

“inept to stop him” … you should really STFU, Jen.

@Zoo:

Thier culture is minimal to none in my opinion. I find more culture in a McDonalds than I do in all of France. And lastly I am disgusted with the french because without us they would be a fly speck on the map, and the culture you say they have would have been stomped out by any country that wanted to take the time to invade them.

I also really have laugh each time when i hear that:
i don’t want to be thanked … but i hate them because they didn’t thank me.

For the culture … yeah. Stay were you are, do think that McD is culture. Go and buy, ditch. Your opinion is worth what … let me think … oh, and i am not complaining that you don’t thank me for my grandeur and effort to listen and reply to you.

Have you taken your meds today? Really, I can’t even decipher that.

It is really clear on France. France has no worthwhile military, economy or influence in world affairs. So in essence, in the grand scheme of things THEY ARE NOTHING!

Cystic, if you are implying because some people listen to france that they have some kind of influence… ok. Yep, out of all the screaming anti americanism in the world the French scream the loudest. And they do have a little bit to back up thier crying. Thier UN vote. Not that they earned mind you. It was reserved for world powers but for God knows what reason we allowed them a veto after WW2. Let me repeat that “WE ALLOWED THEM THE RIGHT TO VETO AFTER WORLD WAR II!”

France is insignifigant, and I would like to see thier veto taken away from them and given to a country that has some actual real world influnce in the world outside having the biggest mouth. Germany does not agree with many of our policies, but I would not have a problem with them getting the veto from France. They are a contender in world affiars, the french outside thier complaining and the veto we gave them, are NOTHING!

A lot of people might complain about that. I am sure the French would take it as a huge insult. But in the end, so what. They are the French, what are they going to do about it?

And although Falk is on probabtion, I am going to say something about the small part of his rambling I could decipher. The indians getting slaughtered huh? You are stereotypical in that all evil in the world starts with the west, and specificaly white people. The indians were butchering each other for 1000s of years before we came to the continent. The Aztecs in paticular ritualisticly killed 10s of thousands. But wait! That evil was not committed by white Eurupeans so it is not worth mentioning. Lets concentrate only on white Eurupeans, because everyone knows that they are inherently evil.

Stop your belly aching about “well they conquered such and such” blah blah blah. First of all, everyone has been conquered by someone else at one time or another. Myabe blacks owe jews something for enslaving them a few 1000 years ago? (think picking cotton sucks, I can’t imagine what building those pyramids was like). Or perhaps blacks owe the sicilians something for conquering them, and in a way comitted genocide because thier presence there altered the bloodline forever. But wait! Those are horrible things done by non whites! Oh god, we need never look at those things! People may actualy start to realize that evil is done by men reguardless of thier skin color. And people may have to learn more than “White people bad”.

OMG, do we have French lovers on this board!!! :o last I knew even demies didnt like the French. :) The French are famous, because they have never amounted to shit, thats what their famous for, amounting to shit. :D

CC: I think we already conceeded the point that the Canadians are sending money, medicine and labor to aid in the relief. That’s why the thread isn’t talking about it anymore.

Zooey and Marine are right in part. If the French were wiped off the planet by a race of hostile aliens, the world would hardly take notice anymore, other then maybe the price of cheese and wine would rise slightly and a favorite vacation spot of the romantics would disapear.

While that may be a great and wonderful thing, and I’m not doubting it, I just don’t understand why there’s a tarriff on a renewable resource that requires no skilled labor to create, I am hesitant to link one to the other.

I’m not saying they arn’t cause and effect, but once we link htem, officially, the role of Canada’s aid becomes not philanthropy but a bribe/payment for favors and I’d hate to have this colored like that. Especially since I know it’s not true.

@Jennifer:

If the French were wiped off the planet by a race of hostile aliens, the world would hardly take notice anymore, other then maybe the price of cheese and wine would rise slightly and a favorite vacation spot of the romantics would disapear.

Not really. Many countries would notice that more than they would notice the US being depopulated.

@Zoo:

France has no worthwhile military, economy or influence in world affairs.

G7 and nuclear weapons. And if they have no influence, why do you complain so much about what you perceive as “them protecting SH” ?

Thier UN vote. Not that they earned mind you. It was reserved for world powers but for God knows what reason we allowed them a veto after WW2.

It was reserved for the powers of the victorious alliance. And the chinese vote was first planned to go to the nationalists (later Taiwan) by the architects of the UN.
Maybe the reason was that you felt bad that you didn’t enter the war against the worlds worst dictator from the start but had to be pushed to it.

France is insignifigant

I find that highly insulting and racist/nationalist.

I am going to say something about the small part of his rambling I could decipher. The indians getting slaughtered huh? You are stereotypical in that all evil in the world starts with the west, and specificaly white people.

No, you didn’t decipher that correctly. That comment was aimed to be as historically correct as Jen’s comment before: not very.
That you want to read these accusations into my lines only says something about you.

@Jen:

I say that because it really didn’t matter if you lived in north, central (west) or southern Germany as long as it wasn’t eastern Germany - right?

It was not NATO and warsaw pact (because those did not exist at that time) but you are correct if you replace that by “western allies” and “USSR”, which i assume is what you meant.
Can you explain to my why it was impossible for you to write these names correctly?

So you think the King of France wanted to be replaced by Napoleon? Or do you think, just maybe, he tried to stop him but was inept and was replaced by him.

The King never tried to stop Napoleon.
He was dead already by the time that Napoleon became important in the politics of France.
Louis XVI was killed in 1793.
http://www.napoleonguide.com/leaders_louis16.htm
Napoleon entered politics in France in 1799, when we plotted against the directory and for the consulate.

doesn’t that make more sense and doesn’t that give more honor to the defunct monarchial line before Napoleon, then say, he surrendered all his power to a general because he was a coward???

No, it doesn’t make sense.
I told you why.

You should really STFU, F_alk. Especially when you … just have no idea what in the world you are talking about as is the case in this arguement.

Unfortunately for you i know what i am talking about.
You should take your advice so seriously that you would apply it to yourself.

@F_alk:

@Jennifer:

I say that because it really didn’t matter if you lived in north, central (west) or southern Germany as long as it wasn’t eastern Germany - right?

It was not NATO and warsaw pact (because those did not exist at that time) but you are correct if you replace that by “western allies” and “USSR”, which i assume is what you meant.
Can you explain to my why it was impossible for you to write these names correctly?

Because that’s what it turned out to be after the war. Not right after, but rather before the Union of Soviet Socialists Republic collapsed, it was really more NATO vs Warsaw then Western Allies vs Russia. Though, you are correct, in 1946 it was the western Allies controlling the west and Russia controlling the east.

Still, that does not explain why you chose that era to use the names from. It was not the correct time (as during the NATO and Pact times the Germanies were “independent” nations), and not the current time (as there is noWarsaw Pact anymore).
Actually, “it turned out after the war that all of it was NATO” …
What was the reason to use the intermediate era and thus historically misleading names?

Back to the Topic.

I don’t know if this has been mentioned yet, but did anyone here about Democrat Representative of Louisiana William Jefferson used the National Guard to salvage some of his property while many were holding on for dear life?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/HurricaneKatrina/story?id=1123495&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

Louisiana needs a huge government shake up - starting with the removal of the governor and the mayor of New Orleans, either through impeachment or some sort of a recall process.

@F_alk:

Still, that does not explain why you chose that era to use the names from. It was not the correct time (as during the NATO and Pact times the Germanies were “independent” nations), and not the current time (as there is noWarsaw Pact anymore).
Actually, “it turned out after the war that all of it was NATO” …
What was the reason to use the intermediate era and thus historically misleading names?

I thought it was occupied until the wall fell in the 80’s/90’s?