Saving One Lost Artifact from a Past War

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He is generally know among Ricardians as “The Weasel”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC9fGIDGqDM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Somerset,_1st_Earl_of_Worcester

Amazing story.

30th August: Rapunzel.
In 1862 in Northern Virginia, however, Major General John Pope was about to get his long awaited comeuppance. Lee was ready to take the offensive against the man he had come to despise, for his over confident bombast and disregard and disrespect of Virginia and the men he had come east to command.
Not heeding his subordinates’ requests for caution, Pope tried once again to break Jackson’s battered Corps(one Brigade did break, but others plugged the gap). On the union far left were only two brigades of Infantry and they were to be assailed by ten times their number. Three Southern Divisions, Hood’s, Kemper’s and Jones’ crashed onto the field, making short work of the outnumbered Northern troops.
Pope did well to recognise the danger when it appeared and sent four Brigades from three different Divisions to hold at Henry House Hill on his left. Remember this was ground fought over 13 months ago, by much the same men and officers, although most were now promoted.
This time around there would be no rout. Understandably, there was much jubilation on the side of the Southerners and a great loss of morale on the Northern side. This sense of martial superiority, begun last Summer  at 1st Manassas, was to continue and come to a head on the field of Gettysburg another Summer from now.

@Gargantua:

I’m seeing no Geneva convention applying on either side, and perhaps the release of chemical/biological weapons.

It really wouldn’t surprise me.

I’d wager on ‘bitter’ as well. A killing prisoners and not even marginal attempts to limit collateral damage to civilians, scorched earth, Soviets-Nazis kind of ‘bitter.’

@M36:

Speaking of Korea though, it is true that South Korea is an immensely prosperous nation, while North Korea languishes in poverty. South Korea became “Americanized” and now places that where once rice patties and dusty mountain roads are prosperous metropolises. ( I know this because my sister is serving in Korea with the Army engineers) Without our intervention, South Korea would have been conquered, and would be no better off than North Korea is under the heel of communism. The Korean conflict was one of our more noble military ventures.

Sure, military means money.  S. Vietnam had a huge jump in economy when we were there that mostly collapsed after we left.  It would happen no matter where we go.

However, the state of Korea today has less to do with them being dirty communists, and more with the disintegration of the USSR and a horrible famine during the 90’s.  They simply could not support themselves because their primary trading partner disappeared and was unable to supply what they needed, only to be subjected to a series of disastrous floods and drought.  Of course, it’s not helped by their military-oriented economic policy, but we do similar and still sustain ourselves (but we’ve got the goods).

But we took a number of casualties in Korea, was it worth that sacrifice of American lives? As a Marine I believe we are all expendable to accomplish our mission, but the call is yours. How many of us will you sacrifice to accomplish the objective? You should be willing to sacrifice all of us. That kind of resolve no longer exists in America.

Tough to say.  As an elite group of fighters, I wouldn’t send Marines in frivolously.  When it comes to Korea, we are exactly where we were after WW2 (except no skirmishes and such).  So did it do any good?  I guess so, primarily economically.  Are your lives worth promoting the economy of another country?  Are anyone’s?  Especially when that country actually competes with our own?

But here’s the thing: we installed an unpopular dictator in S. Korea that resigned.  A military coup followed that was just was tyrannical and ruthless.  It really goes unnoticed because the economy surged and we “saved” them from communism.  But I don’t think we accomplished all that much.

I’m not sure when or where you guys should be deployed.  Hopefully never, but that’s a pipe dream.

The book “one flew over the cuckoos nest” is from the indians point of view.  Its even better than the awesome movie.

Some books  -
      The bear and the dragon  by tom clancy        Very long.  again uses character jack ryan as president during a war b/w Russia and China

Ismael and My Ismael by daniel quinn          Girl talks to a gorrila that can communicate through physcokenisis or something like that.
                                                                The ape “Ismael” tries to teach the girl how the world is totally F’ed up and how the world controlles people through “mother culture”.  A lot of going back to tribal ways and no locking up of the food.  Question work.  That stuff

The story of B by daniel quinn.      Same ape only about religion this time.

Banking on Baghdad by i forget.    The history of foreign influence in iraq going back to around 3000 b.c.