• '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    Was looking at Young Grasshopper’s thread and remembered recent thoughts on some movies that fit into the category Overrated.

    Please give your opinions.

    I will begin by throwing down two:

    The Matrix

    and

    Avatar

    The Matrix, because the acting was average to poor, the action was usually gratuitously cliche and pointless and a couple scenes just seemed a little hokey. Don’t get me wrong, it is a cool movie and worth watching, the concept is great, I just don’t think it is as wonderful as many people make it out to be. And I hear that the sequels rather ruin what could have been a very good trilogy.

    Avatar… well, what can I say but that pretty much the whole movie was bad. It was simply a combination of a couple movies, or at least a routine installment of a well-defined genre (colonists vs. natives). The filming was not as revolutionary as it was billed to be, much of the animation did look animated. The writing of characters was entirely one dimensional, the plot predictable and much of the action was for naught but the sake of 3-D. Definitely did not deserve to be 2nd highest grossing film ever.


  • Any movie produced by DC Comics and or Marvel
    Any 3D movie
    Any movie like Battleship
    Any movie with Samuel Jackson complaining about some problem
    Any movie that was a play recently made into a movie
    Any movie with Jennifer Lopez
    Any movie by Tyler Perry
    etc.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @Imperious:

    Any movie produced by DC Comics and or Marvel

    Don’t at all agree with this. Some of them, sure… but Avengers and The Dark Knight were not overrated, both lived up to or exceeded their hype. Batman Begins on the other hand is severely underrated in my opinion.

    I am not sure that Spiderman 3 was produced by Marvel, but it was ridiculously overrated. I don’t really like that trilogy of Spiderman, but # 3 was by far the worst. X-Men was terrible, but I don’t know what marks it got. X2 was infinitely better, though still only average. Haven’t seen X3. Again, don’t know about the hype of the Wolverine prequel, but it was not very good. Interesting back story, but not a good film.

    You aren’t giving any concrete examples here IL… just generalizations based on your preferences apparently. I was looking for something more specific; it is not really fair to blast entire genres or movie types because they themselves are cannot “overrated”.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @Imperious:

    Any movie with Samuel Jackson complaining about some problem

    On a sidenote, I thought his commercial/mini film complaining about apathetic former Obama voters quite hilarious.


  • I was looking for something more specific

    Incredible Hulk ( the one where the green jackass runs 800 miles per hour on land). I can list all the comic book movies…I thought i would save time and just say DC Comics.

    Overrated means to me not worth the time of day forcing me to scroll past these commercials on the TV recorder.

    I am proud that i never saw any harry Potter movie or commercial as well as the ripoff “Percy Jackson bla bla bla and the Lighted Thief”

    I have to add: any movie that says it was “based on a true story” and ends up being a horror movie or has a filming technique where it looks green and the camera moves around too much because the budget was not sufficient to actually make a decent monster. If it is in 3D it is ranked lower.


  • “Star Trek” (2009) and “Taxi Driver” leap immediately to mind.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @Imperious:

    Overrated means to me not worth the time of day forcing me to scroll past these commercials on the TV recorder.

    Again, these seem more like your preferences, but whatever…

    As for a definition of “overrate” then:   “to rate  or appraise too highly; overestimate”

    Clearly we are talking about a movie’s merits pertaining to widespread critical or box office response and the resulting worthiness of those figures. To be overrated, a movie must be hyped or otherwise acclaimed in the first place; be that before or after its release.

    And also, issuing a judgmental comment on the quality or merit of movies which you have not seen is not what I am looking for. Clearly you have your opinions and preferences for films, I get that. But I am looking for explanations and discussion on why a particular movie, having the qualifier of being popular, critically acclaimed or highly grossing, is not as good as it is generally assumed. We all don’t have to agree on what we like.

    Unless I am mistaken, both Hulks 2003 and 2008 received moderate to positive reviews and were profitable for their studios, but that does not necessarily follow that they were overrated. I haven’t exactly seen a lot of people raving about them. This doesn’t mean I would not agree that they are poor films (I have seen neither).

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    I haven’t seen any of them, or the T.V. Shows/spinoffs, or read the book series.

    But I can imagine, that the TWILIGHT series most certainly trumps ANY previously mentioned films as overrated.

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    @Gargantua:

    I haven’t seen any of them, or the T.V. Shows/spinoffs, or read the book series.

    But I can imagine, that the TWILIGHT series most certainly trumps ANY previously mentioned films as overrated.

    Yeah, this is a hard one because most any guy (which is the predominant gender on these forums) will not get why these movies or books are so well liked. Some genres just don’t traditionally cross the gender barrier.

    I have seen the first two. I would be perfectly happy never watching them again… though I will say that the first was not as excruciating to watch as I was thinking it would be. Based on the acting, the story, the dysfunctionality of the characters and tacky visuals… I would call the whole series overrated. But I guess most teen girls would say the opposite.

    To interject with a less male-biased opinion: my fiance really liked the books and does like the movies (that is why I saw two and will likely see the rest), but she does not feel that the movies were anywhere near as good as the books were. Plus she can realize so much more easily now how messed up all the characters are. So, she might say the movies were overrated. But I will ask later and amend this post with the answer.

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    I have to disagree with Avatar being -overrated-

    It was a movie experience like no other, because of the 3D element, and I enjoyed it, and loved the movie, and every great laugh until the colonel died  :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

    The Colonel was such a hero…


  • I would have preferred that Avatar ended with this being played:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjMUOU4OkaY A great parade would ensue with soldiers marching thru burned out trees and the blue people working at the casino that was just built.

    The wrong people won and the wrong message was presented IMO.


  • I watched an hour of the first Harry Potter and couldn’t believe even kids wanted to watch it. Any fantasy movie trying to incorporate theme trying to similar to the Lord of the Rings. Any movie where the space aliens are trying to conquer earth and there is an actor like Dennis Quaid in it.

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    I remember when both Avatar, and The Hurt Locker we’re winning either golden globes or Oscars, but I thought they should have been competing for the Razi.


  • This is why i hate these type of movies…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzceykTiwjs

    It is just the most ridiculous, cheezy crapola that ruins movies and turns a theater into a 2 hour child day care center.

    I cringe when i see this type of thing.


  • @Imperious:

    Any movie like Battleship
    Any movie with Jennifer Lopez
    Any movie by Tyler Perry
    etc.

    Totally agree.

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    @Imperious:

    I would have preferred that Avatar ended with this being played: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0K551W0fzk and soldiers marching thru burned out trees and the blue people working at the casino that was just built.

    The wrong people won and the wrong message was presented IMO.

    Insert Evil laugh here

    Yes. :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dBAXWCeHKY


  • Avatar WAS overrated, so was the last Batman (and I’m a fan of SF as well as the Batman)

    The Matrix is a great movie, a strong movie. The fight in the training programm, dodging bullets, “Mr. Anderson”, etc. are great moments of late 90’s-2000’s cinema.

    Of course it’s my opinion. But since it’s the topic, I must say the Matrix 1 is kinda milestone.


  • Yea matrix was very good. That is the form of fantasy i prefer. It was more like Science Fiction which has basis in something factual and realistic.

    Oh and here is a better idea for the Avatar end. The march takes place under that huge tree ( which was burned out due to battle). Sort of the Arch De Triumph thing 1940.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5oWH6JWBJY&feature=endscreen


  • 2012 is overrated, the CGI was over done.


  • @Gargantua:

    I haven’t seen any of them, or the T.V. Shows/spinoffs, or read the book series.

    But I can imagine, that the TWILIGHT series most certainly trumps ANY previously mentioned films as overrated.

    agreed

    @Gargantua:

    @Imperious:

    I would have preferred that Avatar ended with this being played: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0K551W0fzk and soldiers marching thru burned out trees and the blue people working at the casino that was just built.

    The wrong people won and the wrong message was presented IMO.

    Insert Evil laugh here

    Yes. :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dBAXWCeHKY

    :evil:

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