Using Pacific/Europe Pieces with original board.

Active Nations:

USSR: 45 IPCs
Would include all starting USSR territories, plus the following:
Germany, Poland, Slovakia Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Albania

Western Europe (WE) : 23 IPCs

Portugal, Portuguese Guinea, Angola, Mozambique Holland Belgium, Suriname, Belgian Congo Greenland, Iceland, Denmark, Norway Northern Italy, Southern Italy, Sicily, Sardinia Turkey, Greece, Crete

So in E&W, a bit ahistorically (as the game is set in 1948) Greece and Turkey are part of WE, despite not joining NATO until 1952. For now I’m lumping them in here, but my other preference would be to have them as strict neutrals – more on that later.

Also in E&W, Greenland and Iceland are treated as US territories; since both are worth 0 IPCs on the Europe 1940 map, the only real important distinction is whether they are hostile or friendly, so I wanted to include them under WE instead.

UK: 31 IPCs
gains the following territories:
Italian Somaliland, Tobruk, Libya, Western Germany

UK loses Trans-Jordan, Egypt, Alexandria to the Arab League UK loses Iceland to WE

US: 38 IPCs
gains the following territories:
Greater Southern Germany

US loses Southeast Mexico to the OAS US loses Greenland to WE

Neutral Powers:

France (pro-NATO) : 16 IPCs

France loses Syria to the Arab League

What I’m proposing for France would be sort of a hybrid rule between the activation rules for pro-neutrals, and a house rule I proposed for China, in E&W.

Essentially how this works is that France would contribute income to WE, based on the IPC value of French territories containing NATO troops (WE, UK, or US) at the end of Western Europe’s turn. If France is attacked by the USSR, all French units and territories would convert to WE ownership.

The reason for doing this is primarily to keep France as part of NATO, without making WE so huge economically that they don’t need any help. Also, by weakening NATO a little bit in this way, I’m hoping to avoid needing to use the E&W rule whereby USSR gets infantry for 2 IPCs instead of 3 IPCs.

Organization of American States (OAS) : 9 IPCs
(Essentially, all of the neutral South American countries except Suriname, plus Southeast Mexico)
If the OAS is attacked by the USSR, all OAS units and territories would convert to US ownership.

Arab League: 8 IPCs
(Alexandria, Egypt, Trans-Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia)
If the Arab League is attacked by the USSR, all Arab units and territories would convert to UK ownership.

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So, in addition to possibly including a diplomacy mechanism similar to classic E&W, I was wanting to incorporate one of the house rules I had suggested for E&W and apply it to this scenario:

All remaining neutrals are considered “strict neutrals”
However:

The USSR may attack any neutral at any time. If the USSR attacks a strict neutral, rather than having ALL strict neutrals side with NATO (as in classic Europe 1940) instead NATO gets to shift either the OAS or Arab League one step on the diplomacy scale.

Now, if Greece and Turkey are kept as strict neutrals, rather than being part of WE, this rule could potentially have large consequences if/when the USSR chooses to attack them.

I was thinking instead of the classic E&W diplomacy scale, it’d make more sense to have it like -8/-6/-4/-2/0/+2/+4/+6/+8

Strict Neutrals:
Probably a good “hard and fast” rule would be that if attacked by the USSR, strict neutrals in Europe would join WE, while strict neutrals in Africa or the middle east would join UK; Rio De Oro would be considered part of Spain, for these purposes. If Turkey is neutral…? I’d probably consider them part of the middle east.

Europe: Eire, Spain / Rio De Oro, Switzerland, Sweden, Finland Africa: Sierra Leone, Liberia, Ethiopia Middle East: Northwest Persia, Persia, Eastern Persia, Afghanistan

What this all means:

Starting Income:
USSR: 45
NATO: 92

Maximum potential income, including neutrals:
USSR (plus Arab League, OAS*, and all strict neutrals) : 71
WE (plus France, and all strict neutrals in Europe) : 46
UK (plus Arab League, and all strict neutrals in Africa + Middle East) : 42
US (plus OAS*) : 46

*Assumes OAS income is capped at 8 rather than 9

I was going to create a 1940 game based off of Doug Friend’s 1939 game. I want to create a 1940 game based off of Global 1939, but with fewer Russian territories. I would like to create a 1940 game with an appropriate Dutch roundel. The Dutch roundel for Axis & Allies Global 1940 is historically inaccurate because the Dutch dropped that roundel in late 1939 in favor of the orange triangle symbol.  I was thinking of making a new Global 1940 game for Doug Friend again.

I have the files on one of my hard drives. I want to download Global 1939 and modify it for 1940 or possibly 1942 with Iraq as a pro-Axis neutral. I was thinking of creating Amazonas for Brazil.  I have gotten people interested in my World War I game already. I was thinking of also creating a game about Wake Island.  I want to recreate World War I from Axis & Allies. I would like to see if any World War I themed plastic miniatures could be made. I would like to see some World War I Russian pieces spray-painted the Soviet color from the Axis & Allies series of games.  I would like to see British pieces painted orange for the Japanese and I am not sure what a Chinese uniform from World War I looked like. China was involved in World War I on the Allied side to get back Tsingtao from the Japanese and to get a place at the Versailles Peace Conference.  I have included China and Japan on the same side.

Italy and Japan were on the Allied side in World War I.  I have decided to recreate a 1940 scenario. Could I please buy Doug Friend’s 1939 game and modify it for a 1940 game?

I want to recreate a 1940 game or paint the board for a 1942 game where Japan is poised to invade Australia and the West Coast of the United States of America.  I have decided that I want to create a 1940 or 1942 game.   I have decided to expand the Caribbean to include British islands and to include the Dutch islands in the Caribbean.  My 1940 game is available on my hard drive (if I can get access to it) and I would like World War I themed money for my World War I game and a battle board with silhouettes of World War I tanks, air units, mechanized infantry, battleships, cruisers, destroyers, cavalry, infantry, and submarines.

Transports do not get any attack or defense. They are destroyed when they are attacked by an enemy player.  The game also has France taking back Alsace-Lorraine and I downloaded it off of HBG and there are too many IPC bonuses.  I argue that the game needs to be a little more balanced.  The Central Powers win by controlling London, Petrograd, and Paris. The Allies win by controlling Berlin, Vienna, and Constantinople, as long as one or more Allied capitals are still in Allied hands.

Russia becomes the Soviet Union after turn 4 when the October Revolution happens and the Russian Civil War pits the White Russians against the Bolsheviks.  They control certain territories in Russia and if the White Russians win, then the monarchy is restored and if the Bolsheviks win, then the Soviet Union happens.

The Bolshevik roundel shall be the Soviet Union roundel from the Axis & Allies games.

Coachofmany, (Doug) can you please see if you can print out roundels for my World War I game?  I would like roundels for the United States, ANZAC, Great Britain, Germany, Austria-Hungary, Ottoman Empire, Serbia, France, China, Portugal, Belgium, and Japan. I have created the star roundel for the Chinese because the famous white sun against a blue background was not adopted until 1928.

Denmark, Chile, and Sweden are pro-Central Powers neutrals.  ANZAC is in the game played by Great Britain. Japan is controlled by the player that controls Great Britain and is played on Great Britain’s turn.
Brazil is controlled by the United States and so is China. Chinese units are not allowed to leave China at any time.  They may attack Tsingtao when they are at war with the Central Powers.

Italy cannot enter the war until after turn 2.  The United States cannot enter the war until turn 3.  China cannot enter the war until the United States in at war with the Central Powers.

I am not sure of a color for China, so I decided to paint it the pro-Allies neutral color.  I have decided to create 3 infantry for Denmark in case it is attacked by the Allies and about 6 infantry for the Netherlands in case it is attacked by either the Allies or the Central Powers.  Sumatra 1 infantry, Java 1 infantry, Dutch East Indies, 1 infantry, Celebes 1 infantry.

Any suggestions for setup to make it more balanced or at least work properly?

Thanks,
Patchman123.

@SS:

Has anybody discussed using Reconnaissance Planes to find ground troops? I do use them to find naval fleets.
Each country would start out with a certain amount of planes. You also can buy them at C 5.  A 0  D 1  M 4
Beginning of turn you would be able to use the plane to find troops in as many as territories the plane can fly. With an air base you would get the extra move. 1 plane could fly over 4 territories and land in its own or friendly territory.
You would roll 1 die for each territory the plane flew over to find troops positions. A roll of 4 or less tells you you have found position of troops. A roll of 5 or 6 tells you you didn’t find troops and your attacking pieces get a - 1 on attack for first round of combat only.
You didn’t find troops right away and your hits missed at first.
AA guns do get a shot at plane.

Could have it where art, tanks, and planes ( they can’t find neither right away ) get the -1 on attack first round only do to accuracy.

I know the game is long enough, but what’s another 5 mins.
This is just a thought and I know Patten didn’t attack sometimes until he knew where troops were and after plane strikes.

Could getting Radar eliminate the need for recon planes?

@CWO:

It’s an interesting idea, but I guess what I’m wondering is this.  A&A is an open game system in which the composition and location of all the forces on the board is visible to all players at all times.  If it had hidden (or decoy dummy) units, I could see the usefulness of doing recon work – but in an open system, I’m having trouble understanding just what these recon planes are meant to be discovering.

You could combine it with the HR about hidden forces using scrabble pieces.

I think its worth it, just for the warhawks hehe. Though I agree that the game would have been a much better investment (and a better play too) if it had included a unique artillery sculpt. The OOB 1941 game benefits immeasurably from the inclusion of artillery in the roster. I use 1942.2 art sculpts when I play it.

Depends where you buy the game, but if you can pick up two copies and ship them at the same time, you get a decent number of fighters and tanks. You’re still left holding the bag on Italy, Anzac etc unfortunately.

Revised has some nice colored units for UK and Germany, with lime greens and grays. I still like the mini stukas. The limes for China and the Grays for Vichy or Romania can be cool, you could probably get some mileage out of them.

I wish HBG made a few more pieces to supplement the older boxed materials in similar sculpt colors. But you can still find some decent stuff there, might be cheaper. I like 1941 though. Its map is a crazy shuck-fest. Sucks to buy 2 or more copies just to get sculpts, since then you have another map you don’t need, but hey at least you can snap up a couple extra roundels in the process  :-D

I’m still surprised that A&A doesn’t put out supplemental materials for the regular boardgames. They did it for the miniatures game with the larger sculpts, but not the boardgame, and the boardgame is the only one I play! I like my sculpts tiny and matching the official materials when possible. ;)

With the political exile option for the UK, our group has decided to give Germany a 10 IPC NO for control of London.

@Imperious:

Ok if you want more units make it basic:

3 Carriers: CVB, CV, and CVL
2 Cruisers: BC and CA
2 Destroyers: DD and DE
2 battleships: BB, BBB

CVB= 3 planes, 3 hits, 2-3-3-
CV= OOB
CL= 1 hit, 1 plane, 0-1-3-
BC= 3-3-3-2 hits, 16 cost, 3 SB
CA= OOB
DD=OOB
DE= preemptive strike negated, plus boosts each transport to 1 defense ( no more one sub kills all thing) 1-2-3-7
BB=oob
BBB= 3 hits, 5-5-3-24, sb at 5

I don’t know if this hypothetical Armored cruiser CA will be born someday and can be useful.
But if the case, the extra hit should cost 25% of base price of OOB Cruiser (C Light/Heavy). If BB A4D4, 1hit 2=16 IPCs1.25=20 IPCs  2 hits. Which means 3 IPCs for 1.25% of 12 IPCs.
CA A3D3M3C15 2 hits, SBombard 1@3. vs
CB Battlecruiser A4D4M3C16 1hit, SBombard 1@4.
Will it makes both more viable unit vs nearer cost: 2DDs, A4D4 (2 hits) 16 IPCs?
But CB is still different from a M2 BB, with 2 hits.
Same guns but no the same armored bulkhead. Jus 1 little hit and it is over.

@knp7765:

@Der:

We play where subs do not attack one another or have any effect on one another on the map or on the battleboard.

What if you have a naval battle involving two large fleets with subs on both sides?

You just say “subs can’t hit planes OR SUBS” and play it out. If there ends up being only subs left, the battle ends - put the subs back out on the map.

1945 February 6- The Royal Navy submarine Venturer became the only submarine to sink another submarine while they were both submerged when she sank U-864 off Norway. In all the naval action of the whole world war this only happened once! I think you could say realistically it shouldn’t happen on the scale od Axis and Allies.

As far as limiting the subs, IMO they should be limited. Their primary role historically was convoy raiding, and they now only cost 6 IPCs.

I remember right after AAR came out, almost five years ago, playing a game of AAE with tanks that defend on 3. It was horrible, horrible idea. Germany just got too much out of that one. But reduced prices on fighters and carriers didn’t seem to break the game as much. Germany builds lots of fighters, but so do the UK and US. Nobody builds carriers in AAE unless something unusual has happened anyway.

At any rate for both AAE and AAP besides the reduced price on fighters and carriers to match AAR (and 24 VPs for AAP) my group plays with the rules as is. Transports are any land or one tank, tanks defend on 2, etc.
But now with AA50 there’s a lot of change. The problem with wholesale just changing the unit stats is that setups were designed for the original stats.

So I have a few questions:
Do you think fighters that cost 10 and carriers at 16 ruins or damages gameplay in either AAE or AAP? Especially considering escorts for SBRs it might be a concern.

Any consider going through and tweaking the setups for E and P to make them fair for the new unit stats? It might do good to freshen them up a bit. I think if well done it could further enhance the Pacfic especially. Convoy values, of course, are a concern.

What about tweaking setups to Europe to add Italy? Without Sub-Saharan Africa this might be pointless, but maybe the oil money alone would be enough.