Destroyer Rules question…

@Gallo: @Krieghund: @Gallo: 2.a) they shoot before the attacker, and if roll at 1, if they score attacking unit sinks before having the chance of attacking – if attacking unit is a BB she can take the torpedo hit and attack anyway, but if it’s a Cruiser she goes to the bottom right there without dropping a single deep charge. This is true if there’s no attacking desrtoyer.  If there is an attacking destroyer, the sub fires at the same time as the attacker(s) and the results are simultaneous. yes, as I’ve stated, I was assuming no enemy destroyer attacking. buy what does it means that “the sub fires at the same time”? 1.Attacker rolls 2.Defender select casualties 3.Defender moves casualties to casualty zone 4.Defender (subs) rolls 5.Attacker selects casualties 6.Everybody removes casualties. that’s how it is, right? Yes. @Gallo: @Krieghund: @Gallo: 2.b) can submerge after attacker roll If there’s no enemy destroyer, subs may submerge instead of rolling.  This can be done in any combat round, including the first, so a sub can submerge instead of firing before the attacker fires if desired. yes, I’m always assuming no enemy destroyer attacking at this point… but again, just to clarify: If an attacking fleet with no destroyer moves into a sz defended by a submarine… the submarine can just choose to submerge without fighting? I mean: nobody fires? not even a first round? Example: four British Battleships moves into a sz where there is just one single German submarine to attack it (I know that British can ignore it, but say that they want to sink that annoying U-Boat)… and the German sub can chose to submerge avoiding even the first attack? Yes. @Gallo: @Krieghund: @Gallo: If there’s a destroyer present, subs can’t do their sneak-attack (2.a doesn’t work), and they can’t submerge True.  They then fire at the same time as everything else. again, by firing at the same time you mean the 6 steps mentioned above, right? Yes.

We used a red marker to paint the tips of some old AA guns to denote rockets. We did it mainly to remember you have rockets. It really sucks when you forget to fire them, it happens every now and again. You could also paint them another color to denote radar.

@Rammstein: Can Chinese units be placed on a territory that it just captured? ex. If China takes Manchuria with 1 Inf remaining, can it place its “purchased” Inf on it that turn? Yes. @Rammstein: If so, can US planes land on a newly captured Chinese territory? No.  The US and China share a turn, so planes from either nation can’t land in territories captured by either one on the same turn. @Rammstein: Does the 3 unit limit refer to Chinese or Allies units? Chinese units only, including the Flying Tigers. @Rammstein: Can a US plane attack a German sub if a UK destroyer is present? No.  The UK destroyer will not be involved in the battle, so it doesn’t enable the plane to hit the sub. @Rammstein: 1 Sub attacks 1 Carrier w 2 Fighters, do the Fighters roll for defence? No, since there is no defending destroyer. @Rammstein: Placing Fighters on newly built Carriers: you can place newly built Fighters on newly built Carriers, right? Yes. @Rammstein: Do existing Fighters have to end their movement in the territory where the Carrier is to be placed, or do they simply land on the territory where the Factory producing the carrier is? This could be important if a Fighter is low on movement. The fighters must end their movement in the sea zone in which the carrier will be placed. @Rammstein: Here’s a situation that has bothered me for a while: Let’s say that Japan has 5 Transports in a SZ (a juicy target), next to that SZ they have 3 Battleships with Destroyers, Carriers, etc… it’s huge. One SZ away from this huge Jap fleet is 1 US Carrier w 1 Fighter, and 1 Destroyer. If the Jap Transports are 3 spaces away from the US fleet, the Jap Battleships etc 2 spaces, and 1 empty SZ in between, could you attack the huge Jap fleet with your Destroyer (the assumption being you could theoretically win any battle), and plan to move your Carrier into that SZ in NC Movement, while sending your Fighter to attack the Transports? The best way I can put it is: can you sacrifice any given warship in order to send Fighters on a suicidal attack under the assumption that your Carrier will be in range in NC Movement? Obviously, it would be worth it for the US in this case. However, the US Destroyer will obviously die, and the US Fighter will have nowhere to land. In this case, does the plane “crash”, thus allowing the US to sacrifice some units for a big payoff, or is this situation not legal at all? It’s legal.  As long as there is any chance whatsoever, no matter how remote, that the fighter will be able to land, the move is legal. Check out the FAQ for further information.

Thread fixed. 

These answers are correct.

@uffishbongo: The one involving Archangel says there must be “no other Allied forces…” This is probably a stupid question, but does that include AA guns?  I’m so used to retreating the British gun to Caucasus and now I may have knocked out 5 of my own IPC’s by doing so.   :x That is an Allied force (a UK AAA). This is covered in the errata thread, btw, I believe.

Hey Krieghound, thanks for the clarification!!  I kinda suspected comabat was a must in that situation, and that was the allied players intent (he was USA).  He wanted to force the germans hand so that the seazone would be clear for UK to utilize their shore bombardment capabilities without being negated by the lingering german fleet.  I will pass along your wisdom, thanks again.