Instead of bidding try this in your game

Historiclly on trn1 Russia took ukraine SSR… I have never agreed with RR Your not playing WW2… Just making the axis look unreal, Superhuman etc.

Historiclly on trn1 Russia took ukraine SSR… I have never agreed with RR Your not playing WW2… Just making the axis look unreal, Superhuman etc.

Well, historically that’s true… the real reason behind RR is simply to try and counter-balance the advantage the allies have over the axis in the game. I mean historically the Japanese didn’t take all of China or the Soviet Far East either.

RR is a suggestion, albeit one that has made its way into the mainstream, but you don’t have to play it. Some people play bids as a way to kind of even out the game.

It’s no fun to fight an uphill battle the whole game; the game should be more about strategy and seeing who can outmanouver the other side, taking into consideration a little bit of luck (the dice) which anyways represents the traditional “fog of war” affecting things.

Personally I don’t think RR makes the Axis look superhuman and I’ll be honest it’s still tough for the Axis to win if you just play RR.

@kyrial:

Historiclly on trn1 Russia took ukraine SSR… I have never agreed with RR Your not playing WW2… Just making the axis look unreal, Superhuman etc.

Well, historically that’s true… the real reason behind RR is simply to try and counter-balance the advantage the allies have over the axis in the game. I mean historically the Japanese didn’t take all of China or the Soviet Far East either.

RR is a suggestion, albeit one that has made its way into the mainstream, but you don’t have to play it. Some people play bids as a way to kind of even out the game.

It’s no fun to fight an uphill battle the whole game; the game should be more about strategy and seeing who can outmanouver the other side, taking into consideration a little bit of luck (the dice) which anyways represents the traditional “fog of war” affecting things.

Personally I don’t think RR makes the Axis look superhuman and I’ll be honest it’s still tough for the Axis to win if you just play RR.

It was actually nuetral with Russia (jp) until Aug 13 1945

The only problem I have with 3 hit ARM on defense is that it’s impossible for Dicey to do rolls.

@TG:

The only problem I have with 3 hit ARM on defense is that it’s impossible for Dicey to do rolls.

You can roll for the Russian tanks as a normal tank … look at what it rolled and if it was a 3 – make corrections on dicey before performing the next round. So it still works … you just got to manipulate it a little.

Yeah, I guess so.

It was actually nuetral with Russia (jp) until Aug 13 1945

Yes, and at that point the Soviet’s decided to end the neutrality… coincidentally right before Japan was to surrender :roll:

On a side note, the Army of Manchuria was actually quite large… much larger than is represented in game. This army really never experienced defeat and so many of their soldiers were loathe to lay down arms at the end.

On a side note, the Army of Manchuria was actually quite large… much larger than is represented in game. This army really never experienced defeat and so many of their soldiers were loathe to lay down arms at the end.

Are you sure about that? The Russians really gave the Japanese a sound thrasing when they entered the war.

Two corrections to the previous post by me:

#1 It was the Kwangtung Army, not the Army of Manchuria

#2 You’re right, TG Moses VI, the Soviets did thrash them about pretty well during the roughly 2 week of fighting. I think my problem was that I was accidentaly confusing the fact that until the Soviet invasion on 9th August, the Kwangtung Army was still a large force to be reckoned with and it is true that after the war the Japanese government had to issue special orders that basically made what was going to happen “not surrendering” so there would be no shame.

I looked up some statistics on it and found that the Japanese lost almost 600,000 prisoners plus 80,000 killed/wounded in almost 2 weeks. The Soviets lost 8,200 killed and like 20,000 wounded. Very good site on this is

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1986/RMF.htm

Anyways my apologies to anyone I managed to confuse on this one. I’ll stick to mostly commenting on the European theatre from now on :oops:

Yeah, well that’s what you get when you face against Russian tanks and artillery. Poor Japs. :(

(though it is impressive when you look at what the Japanese still held after the war was over)