TripleA 1.5.0.0 and US/Chinese turn


  • 2020 2019 2018 2017 '16 '15 '14 '13 Official Q&A TripleA Moderator

    @Veqryn:

    China gets +1 infantry for every 2 territories on the board at the beginning of the Chinese turn.
    If I put China after the USA, then China could potentially get additional infantry if the USA liberates a territory for it.

    Right, I forgot that.


  • 2020 2019 2018 2017 '16 '15 '14 '13 Official Q&A TripleA Moderator

    So to sum all of this up we have got three alternatives to consider:

    1. Leaving the game-XML as it is with the following steps:

    1. Tech/Tech activation US
    2. Purchase US
    3. “Purchase” China
    4. CM US
    5. Battle US
    6. NCM US
    7. CM China
    8. Battle China
    9. NCM China
    10. Place US
    11. Place China
    12. End China
    13. End US

    2. Separating - with China before US

    3. Separating - with US before China

    Issues with solution 1 (leaving XML as it is)

    • fact: turn posts are crippled
    • fact: US cannot NCM into territoires China just liberated (“battling the same time”)
    • fact: China cannot weaken territories for US (the same turn)
    • to be tested: can Chinese place their Infantry to territories just liberated by US (“battling the same time”)?
    • to be tested: can Chinese NCM into territories just liberated by US?
    • anything else?…

    Issues with solution 2 (China before US)

    • fact: turn posts are correct
    • fact: China will not be able to place units in territories “just liberated” by US
    • fact: China will not be able to NCM into territories “just liberated” by US
    • fact: US cannot weaken territories for China (the same turn)
    • anything else?..

    Issues with soultion 3 (US before China)

    • fact: turn posts are correct
    • fact: when US liberate Chinese territories “just before” the resulting number of Chinese Infantry may be too high
    • fact: US will not be able to NCM into territories “just liberated” by China
    • fact: China cannot weaken territories for US (the same turn)
    • anything else?..

    Within the next days I will test some scenarios and post my impressions here.


  • 2020 2019 2018 2017 '16 '15 '14 '13 Official Q&A TripleA Moderator

    @P@nther:

    Issues with solution 1 (leaving XML as it is)

    • fact: turn posts are crippled
    • fact: US cannot NCM into territoires China just liberated (“battling the same time”)
    • fact: China cannot weaken territories for US (the same turn)
    • to be tested: can Chinese place their Infantry to territories just liberated by US (“battling the same time”)?
    • to be tested: can Chinese NCM into territories just liberated by US?
    • anything else?…

    Results:
    Yes, China can NCM into territories just liberated by US.
    Yes, China can place units to territories just liberated by US.
    Gameplay is close to the rules, apart from the stated issues.

    @P@nther:

    Issues with solution 2 (China before US)

    • fact: turn posts are correct
    • fact: China will not be able to place units in territories “just liberated” by US
    • fact: China will not be able to NCM into territories “just liberated” by US
    • fact: US cannot weaken territories for China (the same turn)
    • anything else?…

    Gameplay is different from solution 1 and 3 because China’s actions are limited in NCM and Unit Placement.

    @P@nther:

    Issues with solution 3 (US before China)

    • fact: turn posts are correct
    • fact: when US liberate Chinese territories “just before” the resulting number of Chinese Infantry may be too high
    • fact: US will not be able to NCM into territories “just liberated” by China
    • fact: China cannot weaken territories for US (the same turn)
    • anything else?…

    Gameplay is exactly the same as with solution 1.
    For the benefit of exact turn posts players additionally have to take care about the number of Chinese territories and use “Edit Mode” if the number of Chinese Infantry would be too high.

    So as a consequence - when ignoring solution 2 - the choice is between
    a) crippled turn posts - but no need to take care about China’s spawning Infantries
    b) exact turn posts - but take care about Chinese territories/spawning Infantries

    If turn posts do not matter the result should clearly be “a”. But why do people post their turns then? Why do they PBF then? Exchanging the savegames would be enough for gameplay.

    If turn posts do matter the result could be “b”.

    Personally, I sometimes like to read through the turn posts in the “play boardgames” section and just read what people are doing. And I would like to see what happens with US and China without having to download the savegame, use “Game History” and so on…
    That is the advantage of a forum and forum games.

    Just my thoughts so far…


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    i guess we should leave it with solution 1.

    most players will not be aware of the need to use edit mode to delete units, even if I post a giant news item somewhere

    ps: triplea 1.5.1 is out


  • 2020 2019 2018 2017 '16 '15 '14 '13 Official Q&A TripleA Moderator

    @Veqryn:

    i guess we should leave it with solution 1.

    most players will not be aware of the need to use edit mode to delete units, even if I post a giant news item somewhere

    Yes, I agree. It would be difficult to bring this to everyone’s attention.
    @Veqryn:

    ps: triplea 1.5.1 is out

    Great, I will test it this evening.

    Thank you 🙂


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