Germany's Capital

@daggaz:

EXTRA BONUS PS:  We have an interesting houserule about the capture of an enemy capital.  The IPC’s from that capital are like a stash of gold.  They are heavy, and immobile (man, digital transfer of funds thru international banking cartels just DIDNT happen back then).  That said, if you take a capital, the IPC’s of that capital are in your hands, but they are stuck in the capital of origin.  You CANNOT spend them, until a turn where the capital is in your possession on the beginning of that turn, at which point those IPC’s are transferred to your general fund, to be spent anywhere. (It takes a full round to liberate enemy gold).  Even then, the captured capital only has limited production capabilities (ie, Moscow produces only 10 units) according to the normal rules.  If you take a capital, and the enemy retakes that capital on their next turn, the enemy also retakes their gold.  Note those IPC’s can only be spent on their next turn, provided they still own the capital.Â

So which money is lost when the surviving opponent’s heavy bombers do a stategic industrial bombing attack?

I think at the least most recent 20 threads should be mandatory reading before being able to post here…

@Hamar:

ok, so i was a little rough.  i apologize.  i was actually hoping that i could instigate you to try a game or two against some experienced opponents.  you obviously are interested in discussing/working out ideas and strategies, and i am impressed that you are so willing to listen when others critique your ideas.  everyone could learn a little from you in that respect.  anyways, i’m going to offer a few ideas on the other topics that you have posted!

Apology Accepted; and mine offered in return.

To be all honest, All I CAN do it seems is to discuss strategy here, take those ideas and test them myself using my apparently poor version of PC based A&A.

I’ll discuss anything.  Hell one of my earliest posts was in response to a KGF strategy I had never seen implemented to the degree that appears so common here.  It worked, as far as it went, just could not withstand the subsequent UK/US counter.

And I am not afraid to try crazy ideas either (see my Japan AF transfer post to blast the allied fleet in J4 in another thread).  There are so few major variants that exist in the early stages of the game, and discussing later stages is next to impossible because of all that preceeds it.  I am willing to consider even the most off-the wall ideas, if there is a chance it might be plausible.  About the only things that are not worth strategy discussions are things like “roll all tech as Japan until you hit Heavy Bombers” or other such tripe.

I prefer to play with the base units, no technology, wth the game rules as they exist (except to “boost” my oponent in a PC game to make it moe challenging).  And I like to play the Axis.  I play a strong Japan, whether the US goes after Japan or Germany.  So my main posts here are always going to be from the perspective of boosting Germany, helping Germany survive long enough for Japan to be a threat in Europe/Central Asia, or weakening Allied powers to allow Germany to survive long enough for Japan to flex its might.

If anyone knows of a real-time online gaming site, or if anyone has the Hasbro version and would like exchange information to set up a game, I am more than willing.  I just need a time and an IP address…

I think the best strategy is to divide Germany. The U.K. can purchase enough units to invade the capital, but it would: 1. Take at least three rounds to build the force, 2. Come at the expense of Africa, 3. Rely on wise Russian and U.S. players.

Either way, you are going to experience massive casualties. You can take them in the form of infantry in the west, or fighters and bombers through the air.

-Strike that-, I am not looking at my map, but isn’t it true that the fourth fighter move from the U.K. would take either an aircraft carrier or violating neutrality in Switzerland? Either way, they’ll have to get past A.A. and survive battle at the expense of infantry, and remain sitting ducks if they land in Switzerland…OR…cost you way too many IPC’s for an aircraft carrier.

I suppose you could take Finland/Norway in R1, and use that as a base for your fighters, but that would preclude attack until R4.

Okay…suppose you scratch the fighter strategy & go “All-Bomber”. You blow 15 IPC/rd on a bomber and say…minus 3-5 IPC in Africa, you now have 11 IPC/rd to spend on one infantry & a transport (R1), three infantry (R2), and a transport and an armor (R3). Round four would be the attack round. You go in with four bombers, amphibious assault, (considering the BB survives), two armor, four infantry, (considering the Luftwaffe hasn’t taken out that “spare” transport), and two “throwaway fighters”. A nice force, indeed. Germany has their average six infantry, four armor, three fighters…or maybe not, thinking you are coming after W. Europe. Let’s compromise & say two fighters, one bomber and the all important A.A. guns.

This would be the best-case scenario. The best I might ever see. You’ll usually lose almost all of your sea units as the U.K. before you even purchase a unit, but if you have what you can consider a “navy” remaining after R1, it is feasable, but definitely not probable. If you are looking to “save time”…this probably is not the best way to do it, unless the German player is ignorant enough to leave his capital under-fortified amid a building U.K. force.

Summary: Possible, but not probable. Feasable, but not likely.

I was wondering the same exact thing. Since Blitz is hard to come by, is AA worth getting. Or anyone know where I can Blitz from?

I agree, as well. It’s just I wonder at the investment: If you’re thinking pure Sea Zone defense, you’d think 3 SUB would be a better investment than 2 FTR: in an attack, the 3 SUBs would score about 1 hit consistently, same as 2 FTRs. But SUBs can defend in Sea Zones (at least against ships), where FTR’s (without a CV) cannot. SUBs are more survivable than FTRs because they have their submerge/withdraw abilities. SUB hits (unlike FTR hits) cannot be countered. And 3 SUBs represent 1 extra casualty you can take should the battle go poorly.

I guess the reason German SUBs never seem to appear in signifigant numbers is the threat of USSR. It’s easy to justify the money spent on FTRs because when you’re not using them to fight sea battles, you can use them against Russia. SUBs are virtually useless against the mainly landlocked USSR and so nobody ever purchases many of them…what a shame.

Ozone27

Your strategy is pretty decent–the Airstrike on the Allied Fleet T1 (turn 1) is a classic move, and trying to roll over USSR with INF and ARM is also pretty classic. A word of warning about AA guns–check out their stats–an AA gun may be captured and gets only 1 attack (at 1) vs. any Aircraft in the attack–one time! Your AA gun in Finland Norway is as good as dead and will be captured by the Allies for later use against YOU! Also your buddies may be deceiving you–Western Europe BEGINS THE GAME with 1 AA gun–don’t build it if its already there: you can’t use 2 at 1 time.

Naval combat in A&A is very different from land combat–your Japan player needs to learn to protect his/her transports better to have more of an impact. An Industrial complex on the mainland can help a little, but TRs are still your best bet for moving a lot of land units (especially INF) quickly. As in WWII, if Japan’s industries are cut off from the war front by the destruction of her fleet, she is as good as dead.

Best advice to win: learn to play as your enemies. Get a feel for their strengths and weaknesses so you can predict what they’ll do against you. Then take measures to prevent them from doing so when you’re back in the seat w/ your favorite country.

Ozone27

I play restricted, so all i do is move my naval units to england. As much as possible inf to karelia, one fighter to india. Three tanks into russia. 6 men into yakut, and leave one standing to the right of Yakut(cant remember what the land is called).

This has worked fine for me over the years.