Alpha + 3 Setup … sort of.


  • Customizer

    Hey everybody.  I just set up a game of Global using the Alpha +3 setup, but I think something is a little off.  Can anyone tell me what’s wrong here?
    Alpha 3 setup Global 1.JPG
    Alpha 3 setup Europe 1.JPG
    Alpha 3 setup Pacific 1.JPG


  • Customizer

    Okay, I changed the setup, but now I think it’s even more confusing.

    Alpha 3 setup Global 2.JPG
    Alpha 3 setup Europe 2.JPG
    Alpha 3 setup Pacific 2.JPG



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  • Is this a trick question?


  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    LOL Russians as US, Germans as UK, classic.

    I especially like the final version.

    100% German pieces on the board!

    Like what you’ve done with the neutral nations…



  • Wow I’d love to play Germany in setup #2.



  • @i:

    Wow I’d love to play Germany in setup #2.

    I don’t know….you’d be killing and sinking your own units.  Every battle would be 100% friendly fire.  Wouldn’t that kind of be demoralizing to the troops, sailors and airmen? :evil:


  • 2017 2016 '13 '12

    Too much free time!



  • @gsh34:

    @i:

    Wow I’d love to play Germany in setup #2.

    I don’t know….you’d be killing and sinking your own units.  Every battle would be 100% friendly fire.  Wouldn’t that kind of be demoralizing to the troops, sailors and airmen? :evil:

    No no no all German people’s are friends not enemy’s, silly of you to think other wise.



  • ….Why?


  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    Why Not? 😛


  • Customizer

    @Omega1759:

    Too much free time!

    Yeah, I was just killing a little time waiting for my FMG Italians to get here.  Hey, Maybe when they do, I will do a similar set up with them, hee hee hee.

    @Gargantua:

    Like what you’ve done with the neutral nations…

    Thanks.  From the very start, I wanted actual units for the neutrals.  I didn’t like the idea of using US, British or Soviet troops to represent them in battle.  Plus, I think the board looks better with the standing armies on it.  Strict neutrals are Xeno white pieces, Pro-Allied are Xeno Light Tan pieces and Pro-Axis are older A&A German troops that I spray painted a color called Haze Grey.  I am hoping they will be a light enough shade to be different from FMG’s Grey Germans.  IF not, then I will have to find a lighter shade of grey to paint the Pro-Axis neutrals.



  • Totally playing my next game like this! This is awesome!


  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    The next question….

    do the National TURN orders change as well? 😛  I mean. France in Japan??



  • @Gargantua:

    The next question….
    do the National TURN orders change as well? 😛  I mean. France in Japan??

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I LOVE this idea!!! I think it would be kinda neat to see Japan try to fight a war with China while over in Rome HAHA! Or Watch as the French try to rush forces over to Europe to save the British forces in Moscow!!  :lol: Lets see if the Germans can hold the Soviets at bay in Canada!! Oh this is just too much fun!! I think my head is going to explode!  😄 :lol: :evil: 😄

    I live for this kind of stuff in games!!


  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    LOL and the Regular NO’s will apply… ?



  • @Gargantua:

    LOL and the Regular NO’s will apply… ?

    Yeah! Give them the economy of the areas the occupy but have them keep the same national objectives! Watch as America tries to fight its way across the atlantic to gain their 30IPC objective on a 19IPC economy! Watch the ANZAC behemoth take down enemies left and right while oddly sending ships to the Pacific to capture islands from the French! Man that would get weird fast, and it would be so much fun!


  • '10

    Darn…  You got me on that one.  😄


  • Customizer

    @Clyde85:

    @Gargantua:

    The next question….
    do the National TURN orders change as well? 😛  I mean. France in Japan??

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I LOVE this idea!!! I think it would be kinda neat to see Japan try to fight a war with China while over in Rome HAHA! Or Watch as the French try to rush forces over to Europe to save the British forces in Moscow!!  :lol: Lets see if the Germans can hold the Soviets at bay in Canada!! Oh this is just too much fun!! I think my head is going to explode!  😄 :lol: :evil: 😄

    I live for this kind of stuff in games!!

    WOW!  I hadn’t even thought of playing it like that.  What a trip.  One problem though, just about everyone’s capitals are in unfriendly hands so technically, no one would be able to produce units or collect IPCs.



  • @knp7765:

    @Clyde85:

    @Gargantua:

    The next question….
    do the National TURN orders change as well? 😛  I mean. France in Japan??

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I LOVE this idea!!! I think it would be kinda neat to see Japan try to fight a war with China while over in Rome HAHA! Or Watch as the French try to rush forces over to Europe to save the British forces in Moscow!!  :lol: Lets see if the Germans can hold the Soviets at bay in Canada!! Oh this is just too much fun!! I think my head is going to explode!  😄 :lol: :evil: 😄

    I live for this kind of stuff in games!!

    WOW!  I hadn’t even thought of playing it like that.  What a trip.  One problem though, just about everyone’s capitals are in unfriendly hands so technically, no one would be able to produce units or collect IPCs.

    And if they were in friendly hands they’d automatically be liberated.



  • I have been playing a Game based on this set up with 2 differences.

    1. I placed the ANZAC in Italy and the Japanese in Germany. Also the DEI are free game for everyone.
    2. People get the NO’s of the country they are in the position of (ex. Japan would recieve the German NO’s) Also Germany dosnt get any NO’s but dosnt have the split economy the UK did.

    What a crazy game! 😄


  • Customizer

    So “Germany” gets the entire 45 IPCs to spend at either London or Calcutta?  That can make them really strong locally.  I imagine London would be nearly impossible to take now, yet Calcutta may suffer.
    About the DEI, does “France” (in Japan) still get the NO if they capture all 4 of the DEI?
    Sounds like a fun and wacky game.  You will have to let us know how it comes out.

    I just did the set up for kicks, but now I think I would like to try this out.  Maybe later.  Right now I’m in the middle of a game trying out Young Grasshopper’s new NOs from the House Rules thread.



  • Its pretty crazy!
    France does still get the NO for capturing the DEI as they need every penny they can get! The united east-west German economy is strong, but Germany (in the UK) isnt as undefeatable as you might think. The problem for Germany is that the French are a total power house in the east! Not having to fight China or really worry about any threats from across the western Pacific, the entirety of the French Army is driving towards India and it will take everything Germany has to just hold on! Also the UK (in the soviet union) is sending their forces south into the Middle east to try to cut off reenforcments to India comming from German africa.

    The unexpected problem comes from Japan being in Germany position. There is a J1 strike at the US everytime, as well as an attack on the ANZAC in northern Italy. This leads the UK to strike into eastern europe to try to support the Anzac, which keeps Japan from going full force against the ANZAC, but the US never lasts very long. The odd thing is that everyone jumps all over eachother from the get go, but the Soviet Union (in the USA position) is ignored the axis seem to be doing everything to make sure that they wont come in ANY sooner then normal.

    The only really odd bit is figuring out what to do with China. As the French are an allied power all Chinese occupied territories would be liberated, but that would cut France’s(Japan) economy in half, so I dont know how to balance it. I was thinking of either doing that or making China an Axis power instead. What I have done is just left areas as French and kept China as allied, just without that extra, which kinda works but dosnt solve the issue.


  • Customizer

    So basically, as far as the types of pieces are concerned, Allies are still Allies and Axis are still Axis, just in different areas of the world, right?  In this game Japan (Germany) and Germany (UK) are pals against the US (France), ANZAC (Italy) and British (Russia).  So when Russia (USA) does come into the war, I imagine they will be going almost all Atlantic, as well as invading Canada.

    Yeah, I wasn’t quite sure what to do with China.  I couldn’t really put them in any other place because they don’t have the other pieces, just infantry, artillery and fighters (the artillery and fighters I got for them from other games).

    So has Italy (ANZAC) been much of a force?  I imagine they would be trying to pick at the French in the Pacific.  With France (Japan) not having to worry about the Russians or Chinese, they could spend a lot more on their navy and really dominate the Pacific.



  • @knp7765:

    So has Italy (ANZAC) been much of a force?  I imagine they would be trying to pick at the French in the Pacific.  With France (Japan) not having to worry about the Russians or Chinese, they could spend a lot more on their navy and really dominate the Pacific.

    Sadly the Italian navy never seems to last very long no matter where you put them. With France not needing to worry about any threats except from the south, their entire navy and airforce quickly deploys to the SE Asia, the DEI, and off the coast of Italian Australia. The Italians have had to focuse much more on building and army then a navy. The Germans need to spend a good amount of money in India as well to try to stop or match the Massive French fleet that is inbound. As China is still an allied power (though I’m using the old red Japanese Infantry for them) the French dont need to worry to much about getting land forces to India, just getting supporting units (i.e. airforce) to the Chinese.
    The ANZAC are also in an intresting position, as the Japanese germans need to balance an attack on US france with a strike on ANZAC N. Italy. The ANZAC position in Albania allows them to activate the pro-allied neutrals of Yugoslavia and Greece, so while Japan wants, and really needs, to strike for Paris, they also need to watch for the Commonwealth forces attacking eastern Europe.


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