Best UK defense for Sealion 3 or 4 collaboration

@eudemonist:

Just out of curiousity, Jim, why head east with the Italians?  Trying to work with with just Germany?

I also like to get a head start on the Middle East.  The sooner I’m in there, the quicker I get my $ up and the sooner I get the Iraq inf as well.  I find that if I get into the east early, I usually can lock it up and then I have the $ to keep the US out of the Med for some time.

@Alsch91:

And Jim -
It’s definitely tough to say.
UK can hit 111 with 5 Fig, 1 Tac.  Germany would have to put everything into that spot to protect the 3 Transports.  That’s fine, and they’re pretty guaranteed, but Germany’d probably have to put something into the protection of the new 113 Transports.

I agree with that 100%.  That’s why I left 1 BB back with 3 scrambles to protect them.  Odds are with Germany in both sz111 and sz112.

That being said, could UK have moved or bought something to prevent a move to Scotland?

@jim010:

I agree with that 100%.  That’s why I left 1 BB back with 3 scrambles to protect them.  Odds are with Germany in both sz111 and sz112.

That being said, could UK have moved or bought something to prevent a move to Scotland?

If Germany loses a CA in G1, then Scotland on G2 is out.

What about leaving the UK sz91 CA in sz91 to hit sz111 in conjunction with the UK planes?

@Alsch91:

Wait, you leave the BB to protect the new Transports?

Leaving just 1 CV, 1 CA, 2 Fig to protect 111.
Is the potential sacrifice of that fleet + 3 Transports worth the death of 3-4 UK Fighters?  That trade is probably in Germany’s favor, but is still a tough call.  Plus that few high-power units means dice could royally screw that fight in either direction very easily.  But this is probably ideal, seems alright to me.

And I think you’re good as far as UK blocking 111.
If they did, the Luftwaffe would just nuke whatever lone DD/CA UK puts there.  No issue there, as far as I can tell.

Odds on sz111 are bad.  I typed it in wrong before.

5 fht, 1 tac vs 1 CA, 1 CV, 2 fht = 79%

However, UK needs to bring CV up to sz110 for planes to land, potentially.

Swith the BB with the CA and the odds are more like 55%.

Scotland is bad, unless Germany buys some covering units to protect the TTs  A buy of 10 TTs looks to be out.

@Alsch91:

Also, I’d recommend against hitting Greece G2.
Those Infantry are needed to block Poland/Hungary/Romania by G4 against Russia’s onslaught.  They can make it to Poland exactly by then, along with 1 extra in Yugo for the Egypt NO, and one more in Germany for defense

Depends on what is expected to survive in London.  If London is expected to be tight, or anything less than 7 units, then I agree, skip Greece.

@Alsch91:

We could just leave Scotland alone G2, and go with the full 10 TT.  
That would get 26 full loads against UK on G4.  That’s pretty ideal, it seems.  And more or less unstoppable.

OK, skip Scotalnd, as it seems that it is too risky with the UK planes hanging around.

It’s not that everything would be destroyed in London, just that they get taken there and are out of Europe for a turn

They can be brought back to Poland by turn 4 Via the TTs, along with whatecer is in Wge.  I wouldn’t attack Russia until turn 5 if I did a Sealion, anyway.

@Alsch91:

Right, but I’m more worried about a Russian cannonball sitting in East Poland.

@jim010:

They can be brought back to Poland by turn 4 Via the TTs, along with whatecer is in Wge.  I wouldn’t attack Russia until turn 5 if I did a Sealion, anyway.

They can’t get back until G5.  By then we don’t know what’s in Poland, but it sure isn’t German.

I was refering to getting them back if I did a Sealion G3.  They make it back then, as the TTs that are in sz110 can pick up everything along the way back to sz114 and unload into Poland - before Russia attacks.

OK, we’l we’ll get there.