German Taxation of Prostitution…


  • Honestly, I don’t really care which is safer. The only people who’d get hurt are the ones who committed the crime. I simply don’t think it reflects good on our society if we were to start selling our women for sex. 😞 Just because our country made a controlled situation out of prostitution (theoretically) doesn’t mean we are the only ones who have to worry about it. IMAGINE the sex trade and how much it would expand if kidnapped Russians (and others) could now be shipped here legally…


  • @Deviant:Scripter:

    …The only people who’d get hurt are the ones who committed the crime. I simply don’t think it reflects good on our society if we were to start selling our women for sex. …

    Which crime?
    Ant the notion of “our women” looks like you think that you/the society/males own “their” women. Something that makes sense when put into context with some of your other posts…… but not for me.


  • Controlled Prostitution…

    Required License.
    Required Inspections of the Bunny House.
    Required Consent (Otherwise… its still illegal!)

    It’s not a moral question. There is nothing wrong with sex. We’re not, supposed to be, a Christian state.


  • Y_guy, It’s like sex with or without condoms … both are unsafe. Abstinance is best. Whoa! That’s even more appropo than I planned!
    @D:S:

    The only people who’d get hurt are the ones who committed the crime.

    I disagree as per LJ(even if illegal)…
    @El:

    Legalize it and you increase another group of victims… wives, girlfiends and significant others(Never let it be siad that I wasn’t trying to be inclusive/PC here.) Even if you leave out the STDs, you’ve got a group who cannot trust government to help them maintain the commitment in their relationships. Of course, there are different levels of commitment. How about contracts drawn up between wives/girlfriends/significant others and husbands/boyfriends/s.o.?

    …though I’d have to hear more of the contract solution.


  • @Yanny:

    Controlled Prostitution…

    Required License.
    Required Inspections of the Bunny House.
    Required Consent (Otherwise… its still illegal!)

    It’s not a moral question. There is nothing wrong with sex. We’re not, supposed to be, a Christian state.

    Well, I guess we’ll have to disagree on this point. Seems to me that selling your body for sex definetely comes down to an issue of morality, but to each-his-own. 😞 As for the Christian State, you can have morality in a society without being Christian, surely you should know this? Morality doesn’t neccessarily equate to religion.


  • Ant the notion of “our women” looks like you think that you/the society/males own “their” women.

    It’s got nothing to do with “owning” women, it has to do with respect. Obviously contrary to your principals, I have always believed that we should protect the women in our society, rather than exploit them.

    Something that makes sense when put into context with some of your other posts…… but not for me.

    Well, I could put into context the image your posts paint of you, but I’d rather not waste my time insulting someone over the internet. :roll:


  • @Deviant:Scripter:

    Ant the notion of “our women” looks like you think that you/the society/males own “their” women.

    It’s got nothing to do with “owning” women, it has to do with respect. Obviously contrary to your principals, I have always believed that we should protect the women in our society, rather than exploit them.

    You protect them in cases where they may not have asked for it. You deny it, where they may have asked for it. You say you respect them, but you don’t seem to care about their opinions. To me that is a contradiction.
    They are human beings with the same rights and responsibilities as you and (you and me being both male).


  • It’s got nothing to do with “owning” women, it has to do with respect. Obviously contrary to your principals, I have always believed that we should protect the women in our society, rather than exploit them.

    Your not exploiting someone who wants to be exploited. D_S you sound like your in favor of outlawing Extra-Marrital sex completely.


  • And don’t froget all the other stuff, where people sell their body….
    like porn “actors”(m/f), models (m/f)…
    and of course those who sell what their body can do: pro sports(wo)men, construction workers … all workers indeed…
    and those who sell what parts of their body (say brain) can do… anything creative etc. etc. …


  • Fishing is dangerous. We shouldn’t let people get paid for fishing.


  • Unless you start paying the fisherman to hump his fish, I’ve got no problem with it. 😉


  • Whats wrong with sex Deviant? Enlighten me.


  • @Yanny:

    Whats wrong with sex Deviant? Enlighten me.

    tell me that was a play on “deviant sex” please.


  • LOL, we are so off-topic… :lol:


  • :oops:
    Now you’ve done it.
    I’m all excited!

    Later…


  • Deviant, what is wrong with Prostitution?


  • You want to know exactly what’s wrong with prostitution? Okay, here goes. 😞

    Prostitution is one of the worst things we can do for women in this society. There are so many reasons why prostitution should not (and probably won’t be) legalized, but since I don’t have time to list a ton, I’ll start with a few:

    1.) Abuse. This is up at the stop of list of reasons not to legalize prostitution. The behind-the-doors abuse that prostitution involves is too horrible to think about. The day to day doings of a pimp (90% of prostitutes have pimps - WHISPER Oral History Project) saying “gimme my damn money hoeSLAP” is not something we would want any woman to have to endure. In case the simple fact of a woman getting beat up doesn’t scare you into despising prostitution, then here’s some more facts:

    Along the lines of abuse comes the sex trade, and other countries selling underage girls for next. If we thought it was hard to catch all prostitutes coming into this country now, imagine the impossible task of having to screen for a certain group of people.

    2.) Victimization. The dehumanizing factors of prostitution are precisely the sort of thing we are trying to eliminate from society. For centuries women have played the traditional role of being a commodity at the hands of a man, and prostitution does nothing more than perpetuate this negative stereotype.

    There are two main types of people that turn to a life of prostitution, children and abused housewives (National Coalition against Domestic Violence, 1990). The average age of entry into prostitution is 13 years old! Now, by legalizing the sale of these children (and the abused houswives) you’re simply compounding a problem instead of working to help solve it. The argument that “it’s their choice to sell sex” seems inconsiquential next to the realization that it’s our children that will be walking the streets.

    3.) Prostitution hurts all women involved.

    In the end, I think it all boils down to whether we see prostitution as violence against women. If so, there’s no way we would ever want to legalize such a practice that we find so abhorrent. The problem is, all the above mentioned things would not be suddenly “fixed” by the government regulation if prostitution were legal, rather they would be normalized. Taken apart, prostitution has all the markings of things we find so objectionable in society including: sexual harassment, gender discrimination, verbal abuse, physical assault.


  • 1.) Abuse. This is up at the stop of list of reasons not to legalize prostitution. The behind-the-doors abuse that prostitution involves is too horrible to think about. The day to day doings of a pimp (90% of prostitutes have pimps - WHISPER Oral History Project) saying “gimme my damn money hoe – SLAP” is not something we would want any woman to have to endure. In case the simple fact of a woman getting beat up doesn’t scare you into despising prostitution, then here’s some more facts:

    You don’t seem to understand. I’m not suggesting legalizing streetcorner whoring. I’m talking about a controlled service. In “The Bunny Ranch” in Carson City, Nevada (Legal in that state), there are cameras, recorders, and panic buttons for the girls. All they have to do is press one, and the police are immediately called. Men are arrested for assault.

    • prostituted women comprised 15% of all completed suicides. (Letter from Susan Kay Hunter, Council for Prostitution Alternatives)

    • 83% of prostitues have been the victims of an assaut with a weapon. (National Coalition Against Sexual Assault)

    Show me some figures for legal prostitutes. At the Bunny Ranch, they make 200k + a year (hint: HBO special), and live a happy life.

    Along the lines of abuse comes the sex trade, and other countries selling underage girls for next. If we thought it was hard to catch all prostitutes coming into this country now, imagine the impossible task of having to screen for a certain group of people.

    Hint Hint: its already happening. I don’t see how Legalizing it is going to help any more. You should be talking about cracking down on the Eastern European and Russian Mafia, cause they are the ones responsible for what your talking about.

    .) Prostitution hurts all women involved.

    In the end, I think it all boils down to whether we see prostitution as violence against women. If so, there’s no way we would ever want to legalize such a practice that we find so abhorrent. The problem is, all the above mentioned things would not be suddenly “fixed” by the government regulation if prostitution were legal, rather they would be normalized.

    Football hurts all men involved. Hockey hurts all men involved. Wrestling hurts all men involved. Fishermen are in incredible risk every day. People working in a place where people smoke can come down with lung cancer. Going to see a clown can dramatize a kid. TV has been known to give people eye problems. Tanning beds can cause skin cancer. Driving a car can get you killed a 100 different ways.

    Taken apart, prostitution has all the markings of things we find so objectionable in society including: sexual harassment, gender discrimination, verbal abuse, physical assault.

    Sexual Harassment - STILL ILLEGAL
    Gender Discrimination - STILL ILLEGAL. You can go Gigalo if you with Deviant
    Verbal abuse - STILL ILLEGAL
    Physical assault - three guesses

    It’s the Church’s huge influence on people which keep prostitution illegal. It only makes the situation worse if its isn’t legalized.

    How will legalizing prostitution increase everything you listed?


  • Y’all may find some interesting facts, figures, points of view in the new book “Reefer Madness” by investigative reporter Eric Schlosser. In it, he examines the War on Drugs, the business boom in pornography, and how the US produce market is built on the serf-like abuse of illegal aliens.

    Schlosser is the guy who wrote “Fast Food Nation,” another research tour-de-force that boasts a wealth of fascinating stories – and which will make you think twice the next time you order that burger on the go!


  • Reefer Madness, wasn’t that also this movie against marijuana, which is too funny to be taken seriously?
    at D:S: why pimps once prostitution is legalized?


  • Yes, Reefer Madness was a flick made way back in the 1930s more or less, which is so utterly glob-handed and over the top in its “treatment” of the subject that it became a smash hit in theaters as a parody during the weed-reeking 1970s (trust me, I was there… at least, I think I remember being there…)

    “That 70s Show” did a fairly good send up of “Reefer Madness” in one episode; in fact I think they made the two-minute imaginary sequence in black-and-white … it shows the kids as hopeless dope fiends and gangsters. They got the tone, just the right balance of hilariously stilted language and stupidly exaggerated actions – all to assure, as in the original, that every last innocent moron in the audience would get the point.

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