Dutch and Canadian Setup

@Imperious-Leader sorry, no pics this time but the table did feel like this was a way better way to begin the game. Gets the game going a little quicker and with zero 9-12 anxiety for either side. Seems like it would be more fair for tournament play also.

Axis & Allies and Zombies setup for Axis & Allies 1941

This house rule adapts the initial setup of the zombie version to 1941. Plus: You can now buy artillery, worth 4IPCs. And, the two new industrial complexes can place units following the normal 1941 rules.

Soviet Union - 7 IPCs

Russia: 5 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 tank, 1 fighter, 1 Industrial complex Archangel: 3 infantry Karelia: 2 infantry, 1 artillery Caucasus: 3 infantry, 1 tank, 1 Industrial complex Urals: 2 infantry Siberia: 2 infantry, 1 artillery SZ 4: 1 submarine

Germany - 12 IPCs

Germany: 4 infantry, 2 tanks, 1 fighter, 1 bomber, 1 Industrial complex Western Europe: 3 infantry, 2 tanks, 1 fighter Southern Europe: 3 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 Industrial complex Eastern Europe: 5 infantry, 2 tanks, 1 artillery Norway/Finland: 2 infantry Ukraine: 3 infantry, 1 tank West Russia: 1 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 tank North Africa: 2 tanks SZ 5: 1 battlesihp SZ 6: 1 submarine SZ 9: 1 submarine SZ 15: 1 submarine SZ 16: 1 destroyer, 1 submarine, 1 transport

UK - 12 IPCs

United Kingdom: 1 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 bomber, 1 Industrial complex Anglo-Egypt Sudan: 2 infantry, 1 tank French West Africa: 1 infantry Union of South Africa: 1 infantry, 1 artillery (we recomend to add 1 Industrial complex) India: 1 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 Industrial complex Australia: 1 infantry, 1 tank, 1 Industrial complex Borneo: 1 infantry Eastern Canada: 1 tank Western Canada: 1 infantry Gibraltar: 1 fighter SZ 8: 1 battleship, 1 destroyer SZ 10: 1 destroyer, 1 transport SZ 14: 1 destroyer, 1 transport SZ 29: 1 destroyer, 1 transport SZ 33: 1 destroyer, submarine, 1 transport

Japan - 9 IPCs

Japan: 4 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 tank, 1 fighter, 1 bomber, 1 Industrial complex Manchuria: 2 infantry, 1 artillery Coastal China: 2 infantry Southeast Asia: 1 infantry, 1 artillery Caroline Islands: 1 infantry SZ 31: 1 destroyer, 1 submarine SZ 45: 1 battleship, 1 aircraft carrier, 2 fighters, 1 destroyer, 2 transports SZ 46: 1 aircraft carrier, 1 fighter, 1 destroyer, 1 transport

USA - 17 IPCs

Eastern US: 2 infantry, 1 tank, 1 fighter, 1 bomber, 1 Industrial complex Western US: 2 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 Industrial complex Brazil: 1 infantry Alaska: 1 infantry Hawaiian Islands: 1 infantry Philippine Islands: 1 infantry Northwestern China: 1 infantry Szechwan: 2 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 Industrial complex SZ 11: 1 destroyer, 1 transport SZ 37: 1 submarine SZ 40: 1 battleship SZ 42: 1 aircraft carrier, 2 fighters, 1 destroyer, 1 transport

ATT: Santa Bárbara Historical Play Group

My setup for Dutch East Indies for my game if your interested in is
Sumatra 2 inf
Borneo 2 inf
Celebes 2 inf
Dutch New Guinea 1 inf
Java 1 inf 1 tank
Cruiser, Destroyer and a sub in Java sea zone with a naval base.

Argo is correct in a way. J
there were a lot of tanks on Java, but most ships were in Java sea zone. When it was attacked Dutch only had 5 ships but allies had some there to.
Not a fan of an IC on Dutch East Indies. Japan just take and use plus collect 11 icps if game has can capture IC and use next turn.

I was wrong about the Japanese fleet placement – they do start with a transport and destroyer off the coast of China already, so I don’t feel the need to add more boats there. Instead I would say put the extra DD and transport in the Caroline Islands, where they will be nicely placed to help facilitate earlier attacks on Hawaii, Australia, or Alaska.

anyone have any good alternate set ups? looking to change things up a bit with the group soon

Hello all,
I just decided to make this account to ask these questions:

I get together with my dad, my cousins, my uncle and myself every year on vacation, and we play A&A Spring 1942. Honestly, myself and my uncle are better players than my cousins and my dad. I was thinking that it might be fun if we can get a “challenge” setup. Does anyone have any different setups that might give a large advantage to the allies? It would be more fun for myself and my uncle to team up, because we always play on opposite sides.

Also, does anyone have any extra rules we can add to limit the time games take? We added a timer, and a max time limit of 2 hours to our last game, and it worked out very well.

Also, these have to be for the Spring 1942 version. (Not sure what edition, think its second.)

Thank you for any help ;)

here is a 2009 post from me at HGD: ( note this applies to when AA50 came out)

All you have to do to extrapolate these GDP numbers is to divide the GDP by 15

using 1941 numbers:
Axis: 911 divided by 15= 60.73

Allies: 1798 divided by 15= 119.86

IN AA50 the axis are at 60 total

IN AA50 the allies are at 112 total

This is why the game is somewhat accurate, and the balancing is all force projection with the advantage going to the axis, and the US and UK player facing the commitment of their forces all over the map.

For 1940 you have to make additional considerations because the game will have say 50% more territories than AA50, so the number you divide will be smaller and the total will be greater in the game so that you don’t have too many worthless territories.

So lets do June 4th, 1940:

Germany: 387, plus Poland 76.6, Czecho-Slovakia 30.3, Netherlands 44.5, Belgium 39.6, Norway 11.6, Denmark 20.9, Austria 27=637.5

42.5 IPC

Italy:147 = 9.8 IPC

Japan: 192= 12.8 IPC

Allies:
USA: 943
US colonies: 23.9
Total: 966.9= 64.4 IPC

UK: 316
UK colonies 14.4
Total 330.4= 22 IPC

France 82
French colonies 10.9
Total 92.9= 6.2 IPC

USSR 417
Baltic states 12.9
Total 429.9= 28.6 IPC

Now you have to account for peace time status vs. total war mobilization for both USA and USSR. The amount of GDP used for wartime purposes was at least twice as great for the current belligerents than neutrals. So i would put USA and USSR at 50% rate with the difference going to domestic purposes.

So problem solved. Game balanced unless your trying to make the game unhistorical with notions that the axis had ZERO chance to win, which is a bogus argument even by economics.

@empireman:

did they go after UK? or after another country?

At the beginning of the game I bought a sub and another destroyer and went on a submarine hunt.
Then they helped reinforcing the british after being liberated by the USA. They captured Brasil and Invaded gibraltar and North-Africa alongside the Americans. In the end they were able to invade Norway. The allies claimed victory shorty after that. I found them fun to play with.

I’m thinking of just putting them in as a complete independent force from the beginning starting with the 7 IPC’s from Canada.

Either way they were an original addition to our game without interfering with balance issues. I gave them a spot going behind the UK but maybe it’s better for them to go behind Italy’s turn. That’s something I still have to tweek :)