• @Frontovik:

    but can’t allies block to mainland, making it impossble to get another shipment of reinforcements?

    If you have the German fleet in sz112 they can’t block your invasion of London.

    My ally did the pre-Sealion invasion of Scotland and it worked out quite well. You do want to protect the transports off of Scotland somewhat. That way if he decides to attack them he’s going to lose his airforce and Sealion is assured. I believe we also put an AA gun in Scotland to make sure those troops survived as well.

    If there was a big fleet in sz109 I may not try it. But if the UK has a big fleet you probably shouldn’t be doing Sealion.

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    @Sgt.:

    @Frontovik:

    but can’t allies block to mainland, making it impossble to get another shipment of reinforcements?

    If you have the German fleet in sz112 they can’t block your invasion of London.

    If your fleet is in SZ112, then you can’t protect the tansports on SZ111 and so you can’t do the Scotland drop…
    When UK can blocade SZ 112 with one ship, then the Italian planes can destroy the blocader easily from South Italia. If UK can send 2 ships to blocade, then you shouldn’t do the scotland drop (chances are that instead of blocading, UK could just attack SZ111 with all they have).


  • If your fleet is in SZ112, then you can’t protect the tansports on SZ111 and so you can’t do the Scotland drop…
    When UK can blocade SZ 112 with one ship, then the Italian planes can destroy the blocader easily from South Italia. If UK can send 2 ships to blocade, then you shouldn’t do the scotland drop (chances are that instead of blocading, UK could just attack SZ111 with all they have).

    How do you know that when you play alone? And didn’t know how to response to a simple message?


  • @Axisplaya:

    If your fleet is in SZ112, then you can’t protect the tansports on SZ111 and so you can’t do the Scotland drop…
    When UK can blocade SZ 112 with one ship, then the Italian planes can destroy the blocader easily from South Italia. If UK can send 2 ships to blocade, then you shouldn’t do the scotland drop (chances are that instead of blocading, UK could just attack SZ111 with all they have).

    I favour 1 cv, 1 dd, 1 tac, 1 ftr in sz111, and 1 bb, 1 ca, 1 ss, 3 ftr (Scramble) in sz112. This assumes that you took out sz111/sz112/sz110 and possibly sz91 on round 1.

    Then if the UK attacks you in sz111 they’re losing planes, which assures Sealion. They’re probably not going to attack you in sz112. There’s nothing that can stop your invasion and Italy can even clear sz110 so that you get the bombards.


  • Sgt. Wonko,

    How are you getting the DD in SZ 111?  Are you only landing 2 TRN on G2, since you have to buy that DD on G1?  Not sure if 3 INF 1 AA is going to work.

    I would still do the attack with my ENTIRE fleet (CA, BB, CV, 2 FIG, maybe subs) protecting SZ 111, and build a DD or two to protect the transports (with 3 FIG scramble support) in SZ 112 on my G2 buy.  This way the UK is really hard pressed to kill SZ 111 AND SZ 112.  Would that work instead?


  • @Sgt.:

    @Frontovik:

    but can’t allies block to mainland, making it impossble to get another shipment of reinforcements?

    If you have the German fleet in sz112 they can’t block your invasion of London.

    My ally did the pre-Sealion invasion of Scotland and it worked out quite well. You do want to protect the transports off of Scotland somewhat. That way if he decides to attack them he’s going to lose his airforce and Sealion is assured. I believe we also put an AA gun in Scotland to make sure those troops survived as well.

    If there was a big fleet in sz109 I may not try it. But if the UK has a big fleet you probably shouldn’t be doing Sealion.

    112, is at scottland or chanal?
    and even so, if the french put a ship there or someone attacks the transports…


  • SZ 112 is the gateway into the Baltic…  As long as you have SZ 112 defended you can pick up reinforcements with the 3 TRN in SZ 111 and invade England through SZ 110.

    Don’t think the French could help all that much, except for defending England.  The Italian player on I1 can kill their fleet off Marseilles, and the DD off Madagascar is too far away to help in time for F2.  Even if the Brits try to reinforce the French fleet in that same SZ on UK1, they’re not going to reach SZ 110 in time to block on UK2/F2.

    The UK could potentially move EVERYTHING in the Med to Gibraltar on UK1, to block SZ 110 on UK2, but then that way Italy gets to be a huge factor in that theater.  And the fight for SZ 110 is still dubious with Germany’s entire airforce in range to destroy it on G3…

    Hmmm…  Thinking 1 CV 2 TRN may be the way to go from here on out for Germany!  LOTS of options and not too restrictive for G2 70 IPC buys, in case you change your mind about Barbarossa!


  • @SgtBlitz:

    Sgt. Wonko,

    How are you getting the DD in SZ 111?  Are you only landing 2 TRN on G2, since you have to buy that DD on G1?  Not sure if 3 INF 1 AA is going to work.

    I would still do the attack with my ENTIRE fleet (CA, BB, CV, 2 FIG, maybe subs) protecting SZ 111, and build a DD or two to protect the transports (with 3 FIG scramble support) in SZ 112 on my G2 buy.  This way the UK is really hard pressed to kill SZ 111 AND SZ 112.  Would that work instead?

    Right you are, I meant 1 ss in sz111 and 1 dd in sz112.

    I suppose you could move more into sz111. It depends on how much air London has, the thing is if sz112 falls then Sealion is over, whereas if sz111 falls you still have a pretty good shot.


  • Is taking scotland that necessary for an attack on London?  I mean, a better naval purchase G1 is 1 cv 1 dd 1 sub.  This gives you another surface ship, another sub in case UK gets lucky and sinks all your other subs, and that dd will come in handy either against Russian subs or to block allied fleets.

    Sell me on the 2 trn 1 cv buy please! :)


  • The 2 TP purchase is crucial to ensuring that the British cannot forgo turn 1 defenses for a G2 Sealion. It also allows for a G2 Barbossa purchase with the TP’s hitting up the Russian coast should you be in such a position, or better positioning for a G3 assault on Russia.

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