Minor IC in Ukraine

FIC, if under united UK economy, can be useful for UK. I agree with you that it serves better for Japan but once again, it depends on what Japan attacks first.

Simon, I am also baffled by what happened in Russia since we are missing the critical first few rounds in that BM game.  Adam is one of the top players, if not the top player, in the world and I am sure that he didn’t make mistakes.  Unfortunately the thread missed out on the initial setup and openings so I can’t explain how Moscow was so easily captured.  Regardless, the Allies are still very much alive and the combined factories in Egypt and Iraq are making it very tough for the Axis to push further south.  I am sure that Adam will fly over a bunch of planes when it is critical to make a stand in the oilfields.

there is only an indirect link.
a 1 (or 0) ipc terr cant get a factory, and thus cant produce anything
a 2 ipc terr cant get a major factory, an is thus limited to 3 units produced
a 3 or more terr can build a major IC an is limited to 10 units produced (this is only a limitation for eastern and central USA with production of 12 and 20  ipcs)

@Spendo02:

Can I get a link to the rule you are referencing in regard to originally colored territories?

“Major industrial complexes can only be built on originally controlled territories (this includes upgrading minor ones). Likewise they may not be upgraded when captured. Major industrial complexes are reduced to minor when captured. The original owner of the territory may upgrade it if the territory is recaptured.”

Is all I can find on our “Alpha” ruleset.  I’m not arguing, I’m just curious if Japan can build a Major on Manchuria or Kaingsu - or if it has to include the national territory icon in order to be considered “originally controlled”

Again sorry for the wording of “originally colored territories”, it was a poor choice of wording on my part (as Little_Boot pointed out). A tt has to have your roundel on it to be considered one of your original tt’s. You can’t build a Jap major on Manchuria, or Kaingsu (they are Chinese original tt’s).

@Maddog77:

What i cannot find in the rule book is how to upgrade it.

Often one must string several areas of the Rulebook together, which can be hard to find.

AAE40 Rulebook Page 24> Industrial Complexes>Unit Characteristics> Tells us the upgrade price= $20IPC (and limits, example- Territory value 3IPC or greater, have to own it at start of turn to use it, etc).

AAE40 Rulebook Page 12>Phase 1:Purchase & Repair Units - This tells us when we can buy the upgraded Ind. Complex and where to put it for now (Moblz. Zone)

AAE40 Rulebook Page 22> Phase 5: Mobilize New Units -Tells us that “place new facilities” is when we put the Major IC chit on the game board territory, as well as some limits to placement.

Hope this helps.

I recall a game or two of P40 where the DEI were up for grabs. Potentially we had not read the rules correctly or it was changed in the erratica.  Either way Japan doesnt seem able to touch them now.  Probably a representation of Dutch VIPs continuing the war from England after Germany’s victory

It is amazing how when ever I press someone of detailed information, like a turn by turn move and buy list, to back some stratgey they are toting as being the best, or to atleast explain it because I dont understand it, the thread im in just dies. Like i’ve asked for too much, wanting people to back up their claims, and it really makes me wonder how many people actually test these things out, ya’know by rolling the dice, before posting.

I have tested this out and against 2 players it worked fairly well. One player was just a novice, and I got him bogged down in China (and i had this amazing roll for the defense of Hunan it was crazy) However we were only testing and had only setup the Brits, Japan, China and the Soviets, but by turn 3 he was looking at a very tough nut to crack in HK, and a, theroretical anyway, US fleet in wake island where a naval base was to be built, and a huge stack of ftrs and Tacs in the Phillipines.

The Second player is as seasoned as they come, and we’ve been playing against eachother for years. It worked well agaisnt him because he’s a stubborn git and refuses to build new IC’s, claiming that if he needs one he’ll just go take it from an enemy  :evil:

The way around this stratgey is to do 2 things as Japan. 1: Make sure you can secure control of yunnan by turn 2, and 2: build a IC in FIC on turn 2, there by, you by pass the Allied position all together, and can make a run right at India and go for the Jugular.

@TexCapPrezJimmy:

I don’t think the UK can spare the IPCs, but…

Can UK build a minor IC in W. India, use European theater monies to build land units there, and then walk them east to slow Japan?

If so, this might be a viable strategy to hold off Japan until the cavalry come.

Yes you can build a minor IC in West India with London’s money and send them to East India.

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=19651.0 here’s some more info.