Alpha+1 game session Europe situation after seventeen rounds 01/03/11

  • '10

    @calvinhobbesliker:

    You guys didn’t want to try US/UK/ANZAC/China vs Italy and Germany? Were you too exhausted to continue the game(not necessarily this session)?

    Yes we were kind of wore out on that game. I wanted to get started on a new game so that I could switch sides and play the allies. We used my new U.S. income schedule on the current game and I want to try it again with myself playing the allies this time.

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  • Okay. Out of curiosity, what were the incomes of the remaining nations? I have a feeling that, with the fall of Moscow and Tokyo, the allied still have the economic advantage.

  • '10

    @calvinhobbesliker:

    Okay. Out of curiosity, what were the incomes of the remaining nations? I have a feeling that, with the fall of Moscow and Tokyo, the allied still have the economic advantage.

    OK, I am ready to hit the rack right now. I will try to post the incomes tomorrow.


  • That is an absolutely crazy looking board.  It looks like there are over 1000 units on the board including the chips.  How many hours did the game last before calling it?

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    TANKS TANKS TANKS!

    Why so many TANKS?


  • What are those blue blocks representing the French Navy?


  • I think they are space-savers that represent the giant UK Fleets


  • that’s a neat idea, i wonder where he got them…?


  • I think they came from either the original Pacific or Guadalcanal


  • Must be the original Pacific game, because I have Guadalcanal and it doesn’t have those pieces…

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    I think they came from either the original Pacific or Guadalcana

    They are from the Original Pacific game. There were six in the box, you got the plastic piece for the board numbered 1 to 6, with a spot to place your roundel, and a cardboard stock card to place your units on, off board.  This is also the same game where naval and airbase were iplemented for the first time (albiet slightly different)

    Revised also came with Cardboard Army roundels and Cards numbered 1 - 10 to place large clusters of ground units on the board.  This worked quite well as well.

    What failed miserably however, was the advent of movement counters that were supposed to follow your aircraft pieces.  What a waste of time and resources.  In 500 games I’ve never seen them used.

  • '10

    @calvinhobbesliker:

    Okay. Out of curiosity, what were the incomes of the remaining nations? I have a feeling that, with the fall of Moscow and Tokyo, the allied still have the economic advantage.

    OK Calvin, here are the incomes at the end of 17 rounds.  U.S.–-53 IPCs+35 NOs                                                             U.K.—15 IPCs                                                                        India—28 IPCs+ 5 NO                                                              U.S.S.R.-3 IPCs                                                                       China–20 IPCs+6 NO                                                                Italy—36 IPCs+15 NOs                                                            Japan–22 IPCs                                                                       Germany-68 IPCs+15 NOs                                                          Anzac–13 IPCs+10 NOs

  • '10

    @gsh34:

    That is an absolutely crazy looking board.  It looks like there are over 1000 units on the board including the chips.  How many hours did the game last before calling it?

    About 17 hours including breaks.

  • '10

    @Gargantua:

    TANKS TANKS TANKS!

    Why so many TANKS?

    OK Gar here is the scoop. Germany had attacked Moscow in an earlier round but did not have enough infantry. So after one round of combat they performed a retrograde movement. (they went back to were they came from) So Germany was left with panzers and luftwaffe but no infantry. More panzers were coming up but got there way before the infantry. Germany took the extra panzers toward China while infantry came up. Italy started the arms race in the south by moving towards Persia. India saw that Persia was good ground because of access to Turkmenistan in southern Russia. To keep India from helping the Soviets the Italians rushed tanks to Iraq with the intent to take Persia. Tanks and planes were the only units that could get there quickly.

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  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    TANKS!

  • '10

    @Gargantua:

    TANKS!

    How appropriate. On this forum I am a tank! (older model)


  • I am astounded by the number of pieces on the board by round 17! I only have two serious players in my gaming group (myself being one of them ofc), one player who is moderately into A&A and a few more who will play but view it as a simple board game and expect it to only go few hours and are unwilling to play more than one session.

    As a result most of our games end at about round 6-8 when the weaker players quit due to lack of interest.

    We have been fortunate to get a few games to go 15+ rounds. But every game we play we have very few pieces on the board compared to this because we are all very agressive players. Especially me and my friend who play axis. We are under the impression that if you don’t play agressive the game gets bogged down in stalemates and/or the axis lose out economically in a protracted arms race and a stragegic war of attrition.

    So we never let a fleet or ground force get as big as you guys do which makes me guess that your group as a much slower and more cautious defensive style of play. Is that correct? Its the only way I can account for your giant forces.

  • '10

    @ZehKaiser:

    I am astounded by the number of pieces on the board by round 17! I only have two serious players in my gaming group (myself being one of them ofc), one player who is moderately into A&A and a few more who will play but view it as a simple board game and expect it to only go few hours and are unwilling to play more than one session.

    As a result most of our games end at about round 6-8 when the weaker players quit due to lack of interest.

    We have been fortunate to get a few games to go 15+ rounds. But every game we play we have very few pieces on the board compared to this because we are all very agressive players. Especially me and my friend who play axis. We are under the impression that if you don’t play agressive the game gets bogged down in stalemates and/or the axis lose out economically in a protracted arms race and a stragegic war of attrition.

    So we never let a fleet or ground force get as big as you guys do which makes me guess that your group as a much slower and more cautious defensive style of play. Is that correct? Its the only way I can account for your giant forces.

    It is possible you are correct. But one very large difference is that we do not use victory cities. We play until one side wins the war by defeating the other or one side surrenders. This current game has gone farther than any of the others we have played due to the improved play of my good friend who plays in most of our games. We have also developed the habit of analyzing the games when we are finished, going over the mistakes and making suggestions. We are both retired and have more time than most.


  • I don’t see how you guys can have SOOOO many pieces on the board unless you aren’t doing any battles?!?!?  How many red chips are under that stack of infantry in Moscow?  It looks that’s about 50-60 infantry?  It doesn’t make any sense.  17 turns is 8.5 years in “game time”.  China has WAY too many infantry and artillery.  I saw ANZAC with bombers and fighters in Mainland China.

    Unless this is a silly game, am I the only one confused???

  • '10

    @docfav7:

    I don’t see how you guys can have SOOOO many pieces on the board unless you aren’t doing any battles?!?!?  How many red chips are under that stack of infantry in Moscow?  It looks that’s about 50-60 infantry?  It doesn’t make any sense.  17 turns is 8.5 years in “game time”.  China has WAY too many infantry and artillery.  I saw ANZAC with bombers and fighters in Mainland China.

    Unless this is a silly game, am I the only one confused???

    Did you read my previous post? I gave an explanation as to how our game may be different!

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