Question to Krieghund

Etiquette for optional rules vary from group to group, but the rulebook says that they may be used “if all players agree”.

Just to be clear, this is only an optional rule in Classic.  In Revised, it’s a standard rule.

Yes, allied units can occupy the same territory.

Want to add that axis can also be in same territory for defense etc.

@Jennifer:

In that case they are +4 IPC for Caucasus that turn.  However, they are not in an tactical advantage and Russia has suffered no loss for loosing it.

Net:  Russia Tactical Advantage with larger then normal stack in W. Russ.  IPC Gain +2 (WR)
Net:  Germany at no advantage, IPC gain of 4 in Cauc, IPC loss of 2 WR, net 2 IPC gain, tactical disadvantage due to larger then normal stack in WRuss.

The way I see it, Germany gains +4 IPC from the territory, and +1 IPC from the 1/3 chance of killing a unit with minimum value 3 IPC (one infantry), so net +5 IPC for investment of +3 IPC.  Germany also benefits from tying down the UK bomber for that turn, which is not trivial; a UK bomber can do a lot of damage to valuable naval units.

The Allies gain a tactical advantage from killing a forward placed German infantry, as well as the fact that the UK, not Russia, depleted Germany’s forces, which in turn allows Russia’s forces to mass and therefore be more efficient.

Russia gains nothing by holding West Russia because I believe Russia should hold West Russia until Germany has heavily massed at Ukraine.  That is, Russia should probably be holding West Russia anyways.

Just think of it this way:  Since trannies are NOT involved in the attack (they are not even on the battle board) then they don’t have to “waste any part of their move” getting to the objective.  However, any BBs or DDs that contributed to a battle offshore canNOT bombard during the amphibious assault.

They probably had so much vodka in their blood they were putting the shells in backwards.

Sankt has the rules correct.

As for house rules, all bets are off on those (which is why discussion of them is reserved for the House Rules forum)

Thanks for the information, I’m assuming with this strategy, DM, that you also don’t build an India production faculity, correct?

Thanks to everyone for the ideas, and hopefully the class won’t have to Britain falling second turn next time.  Sort of mean, tried to see how the class would deal with Canadian Shield, more or less played to my hands, Britain didn’t build much of a defensive mainland or put fleet into blocking, will talk about it Monday since class was really small on Wednesday.

nope

You may defend together but never attack since the UK ships are not “placed on the battleboard” they can take no hits.