Who wants Roundels like AAA Europe/Pacific 1940 ?

Interesting,

You might find inspiration at the House Rules section - look for Axis & Allies Global 1940 House Rules Expansion.

In this Expansion the Cost Of All Units section gives you a quick view of the number of units as well as their combat factor etc.

You’ll find it under The Captain’s Global 1940 House Rules Collection (sticked at the frontpage of the House Rules section).

You also might find inspiration at the Global 1943 House Rules Expansion.

Good luck:+1:

Yup, this all sounds fun.

You can just add 2 or 3 infantry and 1 or 2 small boats to the Dutch East Indies if you want and call it a day; that’s thematic and won’t unbalance the game.

Taamvan’s idea of merging all of the various minor Allied powers into a “Free Forces” player is also interesting. It gets at what I see as the core problem: there are several nations whose economies are so small that they don’t mesh comfortably with the pricing structure for Global 1940 units. For example, French North Africa + Central Africa + Madagascar + Syria + Indochina = 10 IPCs…not even enough to buy a minor factory, even if the rules allowed you to collect income or make purchases without a capital. Holland + Congo + Java + Sumatra + Celebes = 15 IPCs…enough for a factory, but not really enough to buy a navy that can accomplish anything against the Japanese. You’d much rather have those IPCs going to the British (or ANZAC), because the start-up costs are too high – if you’re trying to buy a factory, and then some infantry, and then some planes, and then a carrier, and then a transport, well, by the time you can afford all of that, your transport won’t be landing troops anywhere until turn 8, and if you try to skip any of those steps, then your fleet gets sunk or your factory gets captured. ANZAC already starts with some infantry and an air force, so when they earn income they can get it into play much more quickly.

One way to handle this is to mush the French and Dutch and Norwegians and Polish together, so that they all add up to one efficiently-sized power.

The other way to handle this is to scale down part of the Global 1940 economy that deals with minor powers. Infantry and artillery are already affordable for minor powers; the problem is boats and factories. So, make those cheaper and weaker for small powers!

A “patrol boat” costs 5 IPCs, attacks at 1, defends at 1, carries 1 infantry, and moves 1 sea zone. A “training camp” costs 6 IPCs, can be built in any originally owned territory, and can build up to 2 total units each turn, all of which must be either infantry, artillery, patrol boats, AA guns, or fighters. Training camps are destroyed if they are captured by enemy land units. Training camps may be bombed as if they were minor factories; like minor factories, they can accumulate up to 6 damage and lose one point of production capacity for each point of unrepaired damage.

The only minor powers are France, Holland/Belgium, and China. Minor powers can collect and spend income even when they do not have a capital. Only minor powers can build training camps or patrol boats.

After having its capital looted, France becomes a minor power for the rest of the game and follows all of the ordinary rules for a minor power. Liberating Paris does not restore France to its status as a major power. In addition to its usual starting units, France starts with a training camp in French Equatorial Africa.

Holland/Belgium is already a minor power at the start of the game, and owns Congo, Java, Sumatra, Celebes, and Dutch New Guinea. Holland starts with an infantry in Java and Sumatra, a patrol boat in SZ 44, and a training camp in Dutch New Guinea. ANZAC’s national objective can now be fulfilled even if Dutch New Guinea is controlled by the Dutch. Neither the UK nor ANZAC may “nationalize” Dutch territories, although Dutch territories are Allied territories, and so the UK and ANZAC (and America, once it joins the war) may freely land fighters and other units there.

China is a minor power at the start of the game, and in addition to its usual starting setup, China also starts with training camps in Yunnan, Szechuan, Sikang, Shensi, and Suiyuan. The “special rules” for China no longer apply; China is just an ordinary minor power. Yes, this means China can now build artillery or fighters on any turn that China can afford them, and it means Chinese units can roam freely outside of China – but it also somewhat limits China’s ability to deploy units to arbitrary new territories.

@barney:

wow ! Nice looking map SS

yea Baron I was thinking EP /Belarus junction for the east border, west one would be correct. I don’t think it would change anything though. Just a visual thing. Pretty cool how you did that though : )

Thanks goes to IL. Its his 2005 WW2 map.

@Carolina:

I tend to take a historical slant, so thinking mainly of Iwo and Malta - but you would be correct where A&A powers are all treated equally and have the same capabilities.  Its a house rule - adjust and use as you wish.  I do like your China comment - will put some thought into that.

Another way to depict Iwo and Malta higher defense per soldier implied is simply that a single Inf unit represent pretty much less soldiers compared to European land units.
So this Inf worth the same combat value than 10x soldiers per unit in Russian battle field.
So no need to change from OOB.

So here is an extra unit for Russia

The Mobile Factory (M-F)

The Rule

Russia can build a M-F

Cost
an white truck at the cost of 12 IPC
it funtions as a factory
factory of 2

Deploy
you can deploy the M-F only next to a different Factory
or conferd an minor factory into a Mobile factory for free

Actions
it can either move or deploy and build units
you can only move controlled areas.

you can produce up to 2 units from this factory
or
move your the truck up to 2 spaces trough controlled area

Strategic and tactical bombing raids

boming the M-F can only be done with a Stratic bombing raid
a M-F can get a total of 4 damage
if it gets 5 damage it is destroyed

Not a fighting unit,
it can not partipate in any other way in combat

Transport
the M-F occupy an entire Transport
and cannot build units when its not on main land
and there for cannot build when stationed on a island

Conquering Territory
if a enemy force gain control of the land area a M-F is currently in,That enemy takes control of the M-F.

Multiple Facilitys on the same territory
if a Mayor or Minor factoy is in the same space as the M-F you can use only 1

Hmmm, an interesting set of ideas.  I am planning to do the same, using the original Pacific and European games for my summer history class and historical gaming class.  I have some home rules for Pacific that I use, where I have increased the game to 6 players: the US, British India, Australia, the Netherlands East Indies, China, and Japan.  For the European Game, I am planning to add Italy, using the pieces from the Anniversary edition.  There will be theater commanders for the US and the UK in Europe and the Pacific, and a separate commander for Australia.

I do have rules for Lend-Lease, and also Lend-Lease certificates that I use.  I have modified the rules a bit for aircraft and shore bombardment, and Japanese Infantry are a bit harder to kill.  When I add Italy, it will have the option of changing sides during the game, or even staying neutral.  It does mean reworking the IPC for the Europe game, but such is life.  Should be interesting when it is finished.  I am also writing a combined rules set for the game.

In your setup chart, there are only setups for vichy and minor countries. Can you put up setups for the major powers?

It could be weird to have 2 new players controlling all the minor-allies and minor-axis nations.
Like they would collaborate with superpowers but not really among themselves.