Where do we come from?
That is the first difference between me and you. Your headline was:
“What is the US/North America? To me? To you?”. This “to you to me” you then lead to a “we”. But this “we” doesn’t include me anymore, though the headline could.
So, i state that difference on behavior when talking on a forum with different nationalites.
We have picked and chosen our fights except when brought to our hemisphere(Monroe Doctrine/Cuban missle crisis.) But, a new day seems to be dawning. One in which we must take the fight to our enemies before the world of freedom, democracy and capitalism we live in is destroyed.
The values of freedom, democracy and capitalism are in danger. But not from the outside, but from the inside. The one s who see themselves as the greatest defenders of these values are digging the grave for it. To defend these values, tehy allow to let them go overboard.
Look at each and every dictator in this world. In their first days, after eaching power, they usually use violence to “restore peace”, they use injustice to “restore order”. Often enough they claim this “unlawfulness” would only be needed for a short time, to keep their people silent until they have killed enough opposing forces until there is noone left to raise a voice.
What the current US gov’t does is painfully similar to that behavior. It uses its blunt power to bring forward their own agenda. They spy on friends, like any dictator does. They have people registrated just because of their faith and their heritage.
I for my part cannot allow such a nation to pervert the ideals it claims to defend.
We had conflicts with the native peoples. one conflict was the concept of land ownership. Other problems were the diseases we brought and ‘firewater.’ But we learned from them, too.
Still, you have a genocide on your list that you carefully ignore or don’t mention.
… Many German scientists, after leaving pre-war Germany, collaborated to help create the atomic bombs they thought would be used against their homeland.
You accepted and accept traitors whenever it fits your cause. But everyone of your population who does not mistake “blind obedience” with “patriotism” is marked as a traitor in your country, which is one of the heaviest burdens to carry for them, making them outcasts of in their own country for the reason of thinking and not accepting everything.
Another perversion of the value and idea of freedom and liberty.
I do know that if we fall the world will take a step back in time. Could it be to the Neo-Dark Ages, or maybe the Neo-Muslim 1500’s?
We are already on that way, and you are leading the rest of the world. To me you are the similar to the rotten, decaying Roman Empire.
If we stop, without spreading our type of wealth and benefits the world may suffer a major economic slump.
What you consider benefits is not considered benefits by the rest of the world, still you think so.
Maybe we can share our ecological technology with the poorer nations.
Probably you think you are leading in that kind of technology. Probably you don’t see the dangers of applying your model one-to-one onto other countries. Many poorer nations don’t need and can’t “afford” (by the western definition) high end products for example in pharmacy or genetically engineered seeds. But, in the development process of these products, up to now all the benefits the poorer nations had were lost or exploited for a immorally low price.
It starts with me. What can I do? I must decide for myself. What I can learn and what I can share will benefit me as much as it benefits others.
Why do you need the additional benefit? Don’t you have enough already? Do you need “more”?
(This was a bit mean, i know you went on more on a meta-level, not on the pure materialistic one. Please excuse that, but the question i brought up had to be asked).
In some ways they are not pleased that their child has surpassed them.
I would not call it “child”. A child usually is thankful to its parents and respects them even when those are in old age. You are more the “little brother”, who suffered from an inferiority complex and now, as he is stronger, lives out his superiority without any limits.
What is America to you(not the USA)? :evil: :-? :roll:
America is more than the US, but still i learnt in this forum, that US-Americans call themselves Americans, while they call Canadians Canadians, Mexicans Mexicans. The US tends to see itself as center of the world, and tends to expect from others to see them as the center of the world. Someone should tell them that the center of a sphere is never on the surface of it, but i am afraid they would not listen, but insult me in their worst ways (as “unpatriotic” if i was US-American, and as “socialist” as i am not).