Revised Global 1940: New Setup

Should i start a new thread for Revised Global 40 aircraft rules?

yes do that.

Extrapolation of Armed forces 6/1/40 was done based on the following ratios:

Land:
5 infantry divisions = 1 unit
2 Armor Divisions = 1 unit
3 Motorized Divisions/ Mechanized = 1 unit
Artillery (subjective based on level of artillery in infantry and other factors)

Sea:
3 Battleships = 1 unit
4 Carriers = 1 unit
10 Cruisers = 1 unit
20 Destroyers = 1 unit
30 submarines = 1 unit
2,000,000 Gross Tons of Merchant Shipping ( rounded up) = 1 Unit

Air:
200-250 Front line Fighters = 1 unit
200-250 Front line Fighter- Bombers= 1 unit
450-500 Front line Bombers= 1 unit

Germany:
26 infantry, 5 tanks, 3 mech, 4 artillery, 5 fighters, 2 bombers, 2 tactical bombers
1 BB, 2 CA, 2 DD, 8 SS, 2 AP

Italy:
15 infantry, 1 tank, 2 mech, 2 artillery, 2 bombers, 2 fighters (1 in Italian East Africa), 1 tactical bomber.
2 BB, 2 CA, 3 DD, 5 SS, 1 AP

Japan:
10 infantry, 1 mech, 2 artillery ( from this in China, 6 inf) also, 2 Manchuria, 1 Japan)
3 BB,3 CV, 3 CA, 5 DD, 2 SS, 3 AP Land Based air: 2 fighters, 1 tactical bomber, 1 bomber. Sea Based air: 3 fighters, 3 tactical bombers

Romania:
5 Infantry, 1 mech, 1 artillery, 1 fighter

Finland:
5 infantry, 1 artillery

Hungary:
5 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 tank

Bulgaria:
3 infantry, 1 artillery, ( they should have 1 fighter as they had 300 fighters at end of 1940)

Sweden:
4 Infantry, 1 tank, 1 artillery, 1 fighter

Greece:
3 Infantry, 1 AP

Argentina:
4 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 CA

Brazil:
4 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 AP

Iraq:
2 Infantry

France:
16 infantry, 6 mech, 3 tanks, 2 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 tactical bomber (air force was not ready and mostly destroyed by June 1940)
2 BB, 2 CA, 3 DD, 3 SS, 1 AP
United Kingdom: Global
6 infantry, 3 mech, 1 tank, 2 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 bombers, 1 tactical bomber
5 BB, 1 CV, 4 CA, 10 DD, 2 SS, 8 AP

BEF:
1 Infantry, 1 mech, 1 artillery

ANZAC:
1 infantry, 1 tank, 1 DD, 1 AP ( Australian)

Canada:
1 infantry, 1 DD, 1 AP

India:
2 infantry, 1 tank

Africa:
1 infantry

South Africa:
1 Infantry

Soviet Union:
25 infantry, 4 tanks, 4 mech, 5 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 tactical bomber, 1 bomber ( rated Soviets lower due to huge issues on quality and doctrine, but on paper they had the largest air force easily)
1 BB, 3 DD, 7 SS, 2 AP  ( on the Manchurian border:6 Infantry, 2 Mech, 2 artillery 1 tanks, 1 fighter)

United States:
4 infantry, 1 tank, 1 artillery. Sea Based air: 2 fighters 1 tactical bomber Land Based air: 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 1 tactical bomber
4 BB,2 CV, 4 CA, 5 DD, 4 SS, 4 AP

China:
11 infantry, 1 artillery
**Chile:
3 Infantry

Spain:
6 Infantry, 1 mech, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 DD, 1 AP

Turkey:
5 Infantry, 1 armor, 2 artillery, 1 DD

Dutch:
1 DD

Final disposition. Now working on placement.**

Can the ratios on the aircraft be changed to put more planes on the board at start? or will that throw the balance off? Maybe every 100 fighters= 1fighter?
is there a way to balance fighter ratios based on how many planes or squadrons an carrier can hold? with your ratio 2 planes on a WW2 carrier represent 500 planes, is that correct? and if it is, were carriers at that time able to hold that many fighters?

These are just numbers based on ratios. It does not indicate the final setup or where it will be.  Also, naval air forces may include planes that are not on carriers, but for the most part the ratios reflect an equal portion of these planes to their carrier inventory. Japan for example has just enough planes for her carriers as thats what they had.

Force pool is now complete. I checked and rechecked.

Now working on placement for each based on 6/40 date

4-5 Infantry, 1 Artillery and 1 Fighter?

I don’t know, but this is June 1940 and some nations would have differences in the force pool. France for example would have alot more aircraft.

Thats not the goal of Revised Global 40. The only changes will be minor and to give the player more options.

Naval search is not a ‘fix’ of a glaring problem with G40. The setup and a few others things are. The goal is to repair the setup, make the AB and NB a bit more specialized, and fix techs, neutrality issues, and perhaps lend lease.

Not reinventing the wheel here.

The set up has them on coasts, but again though your correct again we are faced with making special rules for the same pieces for different nations. This id like to get away with because the marginal advocate of realism is not paying off in the “fun factor” department. Russian players may want to move them out of harms way and that rule will make the sitting ducks.

You can make it a special rule just for Soviets and Italian subs but for most players that is not the way to do it. Their are many other unrealistic ideas in this game and its very hard to fix everything. Rather lets just worry about the really ridiculous ideas and fix them.

After many days of research a June 1940 start date has the following forces:

Revised Global 1940 setup: Pacific 1940

JAPAN
Japan: 2 Infantry, 1 Bomber
Manchuria: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Mechanized, 1 Fighter, 1 Bomber
Jehol: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery,1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber, 1 Bomber
Shantung: 2 Infantry
Kiangsu: 2 Infantry
Kiangsi: 2 Infantry
Kwangsi: 1 Infantry
Siam: 2 Infantry
Sea Zone 6 (off Japan): 3 Battleships, 2 Carriers, 2 Cruisers, 2 Destroyers, 1 Transport, 2 Fighters, 2 Tactical Bombers
Sea Zone 17: 1 Submarine
Sea Zone 19: 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 20: 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 22: 1 Submarine
Sea Zone 36: 1 Carrier, 1 Cruiser, 1 Destroyer, 1 Submarine, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber

United Kingdom
India: 2 Infantry, 1 Tank
Burma: 1 Infantry
Malaya: 2 Infantry
Sea Zone 39 (Ceylon): 1 Cruiser, 2 Destroyers, 2 Transports
Sea Zone 37: 1 Battleship, 1 Cruiser, 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 42: 1 Submarine
Sea Zone 43: 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport

Note: the Balance of the armed forces for AAE40
BEF 1 inf, 1 art, 1 Mech
Africa: 1 Inf, 2 mech, 1 art
Canada: 1 inf, 1 DD, 1 AP
UK: 1 inf, 1 art, 1 mech, 1 tank, 2 fighters, 2 bombers
Gibralter: 1 BB, 1 CV, 1 SS 1 AP, 1 Tactical bomber
Scapa Flow: 3 BB, 2 CA, 1 DD, 1 AP
Misc: 5 DD, 5 AP

ANZAC
New Guinea: 1 Infantry
Queensland: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery
New South Wales: 1 Tank, 1 Fighter
Western Australia: 1 Mechanized
Sea Zone 54: 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 62: 1 Transport

Dutch
Sea Zone 41: 1 Destroyer

CHINA
Chahar: 2 Infantry
Hopei: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Anhwe: 2 Infantry
Human: 2 Infantry
Yunnan: 3 infantry, 1 Fighter

United States
Western United States: 2 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1Bomber
Sea Zone 10 (San Diego): 1 Battleship, 1 Cruiser, 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 12: 1 Carrier, 1 Cruiser, 1 Destroyer, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Sea Zone 14: 1 Submarine
Sea Zone 25: 1 Submarine
Hawaii: 1 Infantry, 1 Tactical Bomber,
Sea Zone 26 (Honolulu): 2 Battleships, 1 Cruiser, 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
Philippines: 1 Infantry
Sea Zone 35: 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport

Note: Balance of US armed forces for AAE40 map:
1 BB, 1 CV, 1 CA, 1 DD, 1 AP, 1 SS, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical bomber, 1 Bomber, 1 Tank, 1 Artillery

Soviet Union: ( global)
Amur: 6 infantry, 2 artillery, 2 Mechanized, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter
Sea Zone 5: 1 Submarine, 1 Transport

Note: i have not yet fixed the Factories, naval ports or air bases