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Alternate Pacific 40 setup & NOs

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These are just proposed for now, the goal is to reduce the incentive of a J1 DOW and to reduce incentive of an India crush, promoting a more global game.

Placement changes:
1. Removal of UK BB and 2 transports in SZ 37, replaced with a cruiser.
2. Addition of a UK BB and 1 transport in SZ 39
  Reason: Slow down UK DEI expansion and decrease J1 DOW incentive.
3. Replacement of US bomber at Philippines with tac fighter.
  Reason: increase SZ defense, also makes it harder to retreat the plane.
4. Replacement of US transport with a destroyer in SZ 26
  Reason: reduce dicey J1 pearl grab and sneaky sub J1 attack
5. Addition of Minor IC to Manchuria
  Reason: allow japan more build slots
NO changes
Removal of UK Kwangtung & Malaya NO, want to replace it with something but unsure of what.

ANZAC occupation of original jap territory to be for every round.

Replacement of US NO of Phi, to 3 of the following: Phi, Wake, Midway, Pearl.

Replacement of US NO of Iwo and Oki to 2 of the following: Iwo, Oki, Carolinas.

Replacement of Japan Haw NO to any 1 of the following: Haw, Mid, Wake.

Any thoughts.
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G40 Expanded Pacific Set Up

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This rule is part of the G40 House Rules Expansion

Please note, that this set up is in addition to the OOB set up.

The fighting in The Pacific Theatre now has a new dimension. “Island Jumping” is a crucial part of the Total Economy for both sides.

As part of the intense fighting in The Pacific, the Increased Ship Building rule is also implemented (soon to be posted at this site).

G40 Expanded Pacific Additional Set Up.pdf
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G40 Benelux (Belgium/Netherlands/Luxembourg) Setup

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Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, but it’s been a crazy year.

I know that there is evidence of Dutch transports, and I’m not refuting that. I’m simply stating that the addition of a transport makes the new Dutch units too powerful on the game board, and grossly unbalances the game in favor of the Allies, which is a bad thing.

My solution, after play testing, is to give the Axis some units to balance it out, and I’ve edited my original post to reflect this.

@Caesar-Seriona said in G40 Benelux (Belgium/Netherlands/Luxembourg) Setup:

@JustLuthor:

@Herr:

I like the general idea though of course it would have to be carefully balanced. As for the units, I’m not much in favor of the tank in Scotland, for realism’s sake. The Dutch had one small tank at home. The Belgians did have a significant number of tanks but evacuating them to the UK was evidently impossible. Having two Benelux infantry units there is already more than enough compared to the French who were far more numerous.
Dutch New Guinea might have an infantry unit, though. Dutch resistance continued throughout the war there, and the Japanese never completely conquered that territory.

I can’t find it now, but in my research, I came across a Dutch tank unit raised in England after the fall of the Netherlands. For balance’s sake, maybe it should be 1 Artillery to represent Luxembourg’s limited contribution to the allied war effort. And maybe it should be only one infantry in England for both balance, and scale.

I couldn’t find any Dutch 1940 Order of Battle for Dutch New Guinea. I only found references to DNG being reinforced after Japan declared war. This is the best historical argument for a Dutch transport in the Pacific, though I still feel it should be up to ANZAC to ferry Dutch units around for balance’s sake, which is empirically more important than historical accuracy.

Another reason I don’t stress accuracy, is that it’s a slippery slope that eventually leads to completely revamping the game; not just the setup, but the map, and game mechanics as well. I would certainly like to do this for my own amusement, but it’s hard enough to get a game of Global going. I don’t want to compound that problem by creating an even more complicated game with 40-something countries, resources, trade agreements, diplomatic agreements, governments in exile, technology, a dozen new units, prison camps, espionage, sabotage, food rationing on the home front, and the Bretton Woods Conference.

Though I would totally play that game.

From my understanding of Luxembourg war effort against the Wehrmacht was the fact their nation did not have a military and only their capital city had some kind of defense and it was the cities police force that fought and surrendered (if I remember correctly) after a day of fighting. So as far as I know, no military campaign of any sort came from Luxembourg.

The Luxembourg government in exile did field a small artillery troop attached to the 1st Belgian Field Artillery Battery (specifically Troop C). They fought in Northern France, and Belgium.
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G40 Redesign NOs specific thread

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Maybe this might come in handy, someday. Too easily lost if not quoted with a fitting thread name.

@Argothair:

Just brainstorming here – I thought I’d throw out a handful of potential national objectives for the 1943 game, and see if anyone likes any of them. If nothing else, maybe they’ll help inspire other people to come up with better ones.

AMERICA
Free French: +3 IPC if there is at least one Allied-controlled factory in Quebec, French Indochina, Normandy, France, or Southern France.
I Shall Return: +3 IPC if America controls the Philippines.
Champions of Democracy: +5 IPC if America controls at least 4 of the following: Norway, Holland, Denmark, Southern Italy, Poland, Greece, Yugoslavia.
Chinese Bases: +5 IPC if the Allies control at least 8 territories marked with a Chinese rondel AND America has a strategic bomber in Kwangtung, Kiangsu, Shantung, Jehol, or Manchuria.
Naval Supremacy: +5 IPC if the Japanese have no carriers or battleships on the map.

BRITAIN
Secure Supply Lines: +3 IPC if there are no Axis troops in Africa, Trans-Jordan, Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Persia, Northwest Persia, or Eastern Persia.
Colonial Restoration:+5 IPC if Britain controls India, Burma, Malaya, and Kwangtung.
Pacific Commerce: +3 IPC if the Allies control New Guinea, the Solomon Islands, New Zealand, and all of Australia.

RUSSIA
Relieve the Siege of Leningrad: +3 IPC if the Russians control Novgorod, Archangel, and any one of the following territories: Belarus, Baltic States, Vyborg, Karelia.
All Quiet on the Eastern Front: +5 IPC if the Russians control Amur and did not participate in combat with any Japanese units this turn.
Ukrainian Conscripts: +3 IPC if the Russians control Western Ukraine, Ukraine, and Rostov.

GERMANY
Atlantik Wall: +10 IPC if the Allies do not control any of Norway, Denmark, Western Germany, Holland, Normandy, or Spain.
Oil Supplies: +5 IPC for each of the following territories the Germans control: Venezuela, Romania, Caucasus, Iraq, Persia, Saudi Arabia.
Panzer Offensive: +5 IPC if Germany has a total of at least three tanks in the territories marked with Russian rondels.
Finnish Defenders: +3 IPC if the Germans control Finland but not Novgorod.
Baltic Shipping: +3 IPC if there are no Allied ships in Sea Zones 113, 114, and 115.
Not a Step Back: +3 IPC if Germany attacked at least one Allied-controlled territory this turn and did not perform any retreats this turn.

JAPAN
Inner Defense Ring: +5 IPCs if Japan controls Iwo Jima, the Marianas, Guam, Formosa, and Okinawa.
Petroleum Shipments: +10 IPCs if the Japanese control Persia, Borneo, or Celebes and there are a total of at least 3 Japanese transports in Sea Zones 6, 18, 19, 20, 21, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 43, 44, 79, and/or 80.
Soviet Non-Aggression Pact: +5 IPCs if Japan controls Manchuria and Korea, and Japan has not participated in combat with any Russian units this turn.
Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere:: +3 IPCs for each of the following territories Japan controls: Kwangtung, Malaya, India, French Indo-China, Korea, Shensi, Yakut.
Imperial Glory: +10 IPCs if Japan controls at least two of the following territories: Amur, Hawaii, Alaska, New South Wales, South Africa, New Zealand.
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Ideal Distances for a New A&A Map

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@Argothair:

Should it take more turns, in general, to move a basic unit by land, by sea, or by air? Why?

For whatever it’s worth, sea transporation and land transportation and air transportation in the real world exist on a continuum in which speed is inversely proportional to tonnage. Shipping by sea is (and has been since ancient times) the cheapest way to move vast quantities of goods over great distances, giant supertankers being a good example of this principle, but it has the disadvantage of being slow and (for obvious reasons) of being limited to oceans and seas and coastlines and certain rivers. Shipping by air is the fastest method, but it’s expensive and it involves much smaller payloads; it also has limitations imposed by landing strip requirements. Helicopters are more flexible in this regard than fixed-wing aircraft, but they have terrible fuel consumption, a short range, high maintenance costs and small payload capacities. Transporation by land is roughly half-way between those two extremes. Of the two land options, rail shipping is in many ways superior because combines fairly high speed with low fuel consumption and large payload capacity, but it’s limited to places where rail lines exist. Trucking is more versatile because there are more roads in more places than rail lines, and in a pinch some trucks can operate off-road, but they’re not as efficient at moving tonnage than trains.
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Mechanism for Conducting R&D - G40

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Hello YG and Dafyd. Yeah, I’ve never used R&D in G40 either. I think I’ll look more into the Global War system. But I’m worried that having to build the new units would create too many pieces as well. …. I’ve seen that some people use special colored chips to denote a specialized/modified unit. Like for instance, an infantry with a black chip under it denotes “Marine” etc …

But I think that might be getting too complicated for the G40 experience. Better to move on to a more detailed game like Global War instead.

Just wanted to see if anyone has a simple method that is also somewhat historically accurate.

Anyway, I don’t expect to do any additional changes for at least the next couple of games. I want to play-test some of the house-rules I’ve integrated into my set from this board first.
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RetroFuhrerMeister's Global 1942 Setup

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Just finished a game with the Europe only setup. Had to make a few modifications (changed the artillery piece in Paris to a tank and the artillery in Western Germany to a mech; pulled a few subs/tanks from my 1941 game) due to the Germany setup requiring more pieces than the game comes with. Other than that, had an absolute blast, definitely seemed balanced. Thanks.
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Alternate Global 1942 Setup

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Still testing.

Turn order is the same as the official 1942 setup:
USSR>Japan>USA>China>Germany>UKEurope/UKPacific>Italy>ANZAC>France

Japan still has all Kamikaze attacks available, All National Objectives included, Victory Conditions the same.

Soviet Union (26 IPCs):
Russia: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Mech, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical, 2 AAA, 1 Major, 1 Airbase
Novgorod: 6 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 2 AAA, 1 Minor, 1 Airbase, 1 Seabase
Volgograd: 2 Infantry, 2 Artillery, 1 Mech., 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 2 AAA, 1 Minor
Karelia: 1 Infantry
Archangel: 2 Infantry
Vologda: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Tambov: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Caucasus: 2 Infantry
Samara: 2 Infantry
Kazakhstan: 2 Infantry
Urals: 2 Mechs, 2 Tanks, 1 Strategic
Novosibirsk: 4 Infantry, 2 AAA
Timguska: 2 Infantry
Evenkiyskiy: 1 Infantry
Yenisey: 2 Infantry
Yakut S.S.R.: 6 Infantry
Buryatia: 2 Infantry
Sakha: 2 Infantry
Amur: 2 Infantry
Siberia: 2 Infantry
Soviet Far East: 2 Infantry
Northwest Persia: 1 Control Marker
Sea Zone 115: 1 Submarine, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 127: 1 Submarine, 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer

Japan (54 IPCs):
Japan: 5 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, 2 Fighters, 2 Tacticals, 2 Strategics, 3 AAA, 1 Major, 1 Airbase, 1 Seabase
Korea: 3 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter
Okinawa: 1 Infantry
Iwo Jima: 1 Infantry
Caroline Islands: 1 Infantry, 1 AAA, 1 Airbase, 1 Seabase
Paulau Island: 1 Infantry
Formosa: 1 Fighter
Siam: 4 Infantry
Manchuria: 4 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Mech, 1 AAA, 1 Control Marker
Jehol: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Control Marker
Shantung: 1 Mech, 1 Tank, 1 Control Marker
Anhwe: 4 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
Kiangsu: 1 Mech, 1 Tank, 1 Control Marker
Kiangsi: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Control Marker
Kwangsi: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Control Marker
Yunnan: 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 Control Marker
Kwangtung: 2 Infantry, 1 Seabase, 1 Control Marker
Shan State: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Control Marker
Malaya: 1 Figther, 1 Seabase, 1 Control Marker
Borneo: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
Gilbert Islands: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
Sumatra: 1 Infantry, 1 AAA, 1 Control Marker
Java: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
Celebes: 1 Control Marker
Dutch New Guinea: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
New Guinea: 1 Control Marker
New Britain: 1 Control Marker
Solomon Islands: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
French Indo China: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
Philippines: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 1 Airbase, 1 Seabase, 1 Control Marker
Guam: 1 Airbase, 1 Control Marker
Wake Island: 1 Airbase, 1 Control Marker
Sea Zone 6: 1 Submarine, 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship, 1 Aircraft Carrier, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical
Sea Zone 19: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 20: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 24: 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 33: 2 Submarines, 2 Destroyers, 1 Aircraft Carrier, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical
Sea Zone 37: 1 Battleship, 1 Aircraft Carrier, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical
Sea Zone 45: 1 Battleship

United States (52 IPCs):
Eastern United States: 3 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 2 AAA, 1 Major, 1 Airbase, 1 Seabase
Central United States: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 3 Mechs, 1 Tank, 1 Strategic, 1 Major
Western United States: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Mech, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical, 2 AAA, 1 Major, 1 Airbase, 1 Seabase
Alaska: 1 Infantry
Panama: 1 Infantry
Hawaiian Islands: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 2 Fighters, 1 Airbase, 1 Seabase
Midway: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Airbase
Brazil: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
United Kingdom: 1 Strategic
Sea Zone 10: 1 Submarine, 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship, 1 Aircraft Carrier, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical
Sea Zone 25: 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship, 1 Aircraft Carrier, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical
Sea Zone 26: 1 Submarine, 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 64: 1 Submarine, 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 101: 1 Transport, 1 Cruiser

China (10 IPCs):
Chahar: 2 Infantry
Hopei: 1 Infantry
Shensi: 4 Infantry
Kweichow: 1 Infantry
Hunan: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter
Szechwan: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery

Germany (58 IPCs):
Germany: 4 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 2 Strategics, 3 AAA, 1 Major
Western Germany: 3 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Mech, 2 Tanks, 2 Fighters, 1 Tactical, 3 AAA, 1 Major, 1 Airbase, 1 Seabase
Greater Southern Germany: 4 Infantry
Hungary: 2 Mechs, 2 Tanks
Romania: 2 Infantry, 2 Artillery, 1 Fighter
Poland: 1 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical
Denmark: 1 Infantry
Norway: 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 AAA
Holland Belgium: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Finland: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Control Marker
Bulgaria: 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, 1 Control Marker
France: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, 1 Minor, 1 Airbase, 1 Control Marker
Normandy Bordeaux: 2 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 Minor, 1 Seabase, 1 Control Marker
Southern France: 1 Infantry, 1 Minor, 1 Seabase, 1 Control Marker
Morocco: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
Algeria: 1 Infantry: 1 Control Marker
French West Africa: 1 Control Marker
Yugoslavia: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
Baltic States: 3 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 Control Marker
Eastern Poland: 3 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Control Marker
Bessarabia: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
Belarus: 4 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
Western Ukraine: 1 Mech, 1 Tank, 1 Control Marker
Ukraine: 4 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, 1 Tactical, 1 Minor, 1 Control Marker
Smolensk: 2 Infantry, 1 Mech, 1 Tank, 1 Control Marker
Bryansk: 3 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, 1 Control Marker
Rostov: 2 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Control Marker
Vyborg: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
Libya: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
Sea Zone 87: 2 Submarines
Sea Zone 93: 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 103: 2 Submarines
Sea Zone 113: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 114: 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 118: 2 Submarines, 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 125: 2 Submarines

United Kingdom (Europe Economy, 37 IPCs):
United Kingdom: 2 Infantry, 1 Mech, 3 Fighters, 1 Strategic, 4 AAA, 1 Major, 1 Airbase, 1 Seabase
Scotland: 2 Infantry, 1 AAA, 1 Airbase
Gibraltar: 1 Fighter, 1 AAA, 1 Seabase
Iceland: 1 Airbase
Quebec: 1 Mech, 1 Tank, 1 Minor
New Brunswick Nova Scotia: 1 Seabase
Malta: 1 Infantry, 1 AAA
Alexandria: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Mech
Egypt: 2 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 Seabase
Anglo Egyptian Sudan: 1 Infantry
Union of South Africa: 2 Infantry, 1 Minor, 1 Seabase
Syria: 1 Control Marker
French Central Africa: 1 Control Marker
French Equatorial Africa: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
French Madagascar: 1 Control Marker
French Guiana: 1 Control Marker
Suriname: 1 Control Marker
Eire: 1 Control Marker
Persia: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
Eastern Persia: 1 Control Marker
Iraq: 1 Tank, 1 Control Marker
Tobruk: 1 Tank, 1 Control Marker
Ethiopia: 1 Control Marker
Italian Somaliland: 1 Control Marker
Sea Zone 71: 1 Transport, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 79: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1 Aircraft Carrier, 1 Fighter
Sea Zone 91: 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 98: 1 Submarine, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship, 1 Aircraft Carrier, 1 Tactical
Sea Zone 106: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 109: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 110: 1 Transport, 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 111: 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship

United Kingdom (Pacific Economy, 6 IPCs):
India: 5 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Strategic, 3 AAA, 1 Major, 1 Airbase, 1 Seabase
West India: 1 Infantry
Burma: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter
Sea Zone 39: 1 Battleship

Italy (12 IPCs):
Southern Italy: 4 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 2 Fighters, 2 AAA, 1 Minor, 1 Airbase, 1 Seabase
Northern Italy: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Mech, 1 Tank, 1 Strategic, 2 AAA, 1 Major
Sicily: 1 Infantry
Sardinia: 1 Infantry
Albania: 1 Tank
Libya: 2 Infantry, 1 Mech, 1 Tank
Greece: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Mech, 1 Fighter, 1 Control Marker
Crete: 1 Tactical, 1 Control Marker
Tunisia: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
Yugoslavia: 2 Infantry
Bulgaria: 1 Infantry
Sea Zone 94: 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 95: 1 Submarine, 1 Transport, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 96: 1 Transport, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 97: 1 Transport, 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 99: 1 Destroyer

ANZAC (10 IPCs):
New South Wales: 2 Infantry, 2 AAA, 1 Minor, 1 Seabase
Queensland: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Mech, 1 Tank, 1 Airbase, 1 Seabase
Northern Territory: 2 Infantry
Western Australia: 2 Infantry, 1 Fighter
New Zealand: 2 Infantry, 2 Fighters, 1 Airbase, 1 Seabase
New Hebrides: 1 Control Marker
India: 1 Infantry
Tobruk: 2 Infantry
Sea Zone 54: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 62: 1 Submarine, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 63: 1 Aircraft Carrier, 1 Fighter

France (0 IPCs, capital occupied):
Syria: 1 Infantry
United Kingdom: 2 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Gibraltar: 1 Infantry
Belgian Congo: 1 Infantry
Kenya: 1 Infantry
Tanganyika Territory: 1 Infantry
Sea Zone 72: 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 91: 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 110: 1 Cruiser
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The Research & Development Rule

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I prefer simplicity. I prefer to have them operate like minor ICs except their bonus is one research die per turn instead of producing units. (when not damaged). I’m okay with a cap of 1 tech per turn. I’ll pass on the captured technology raid rule. I think having your enemy capture your research facility (and the free roll each turn after that) is reward enough.

Having them operate like minor ICs let’s you build them on 2 iPc territories, which is necessary if someone like Anzac hopes to ever acquire any technology.

Overall it’s a great concept.

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