UK starts w/4 IC's in the global game (2 of them are capitals)


  • In the global game, as far as the UK is concerned your really playing two separate powers that take their turns together and have the same color units.

    On the Euro side you have 3 starting IC’s

    1. England (London) Major IC-capital (I’m assuming AB & NB)
    2. Quebec-Minor IC, (also has an AB & NB confirmed)
    3. South Africa- Minor IC (Larry didn’t mention bases)

    All ipc’s generated from UK tt on the Euro map are awarded to England (capital) to use at any of her 3 Euro IC’s. Lose England (capital) lose only the ipc’s stored in England (London) to the enemy (you keep India’s ipc’s). Of course non of the UK tt on the Euro map will generate ipc’s until London England is liberated.

    Pacific side
    4) India (Calcutta)-Major IC-(should keep its AB & NB).
    Is considered the capital of the UK Pacific Command. All ipc’s generated from tt on the Pacific map are spent in India. If India is captured you hand over the ipc’s stored there to the axis. If India is lost, none of the UK tt on the Pac map generate ipc’s until India is liberated. If you thought you could evacuate India if Jap was coming hard, think again.

    It would be my guess that if you build another IC on the Pac map (say Kwangtung), the money would have to come from India along with the money for those future units. If you lose India you won’t be able to build in this new complex.


  • I really hope you can spend the money where you want. India building only one or none inf each round is one of the reasons why AA50 and AAP40 are unbalanced. India needs a solid flow of at least 3 built units each round if we want that front hold for a reasonable amount of turns

    My guess is that canadian income will be spent at Canada’s IC and rest of income will go to ICs on territories with a UK marker


  • @Funcioneta:

    My guess is that canadian income will be spent at Canada’s IC and rest of income will go to ICs on territories with a UK marker

    No, that hypothesis that I presented has been ruled out by Larry now.  All UK territories on the Pacific half of the map will be spent at the India IC.  All UK territories on the Europe half of the map will be able to be spent at any of UK’s 3 ICs there: England, South Africa, and Quebec.  Looks like Larry just decided, “To heck with it!  Just give UK ICs at all those places!”  😛

    So India will get a solid flow of units being produced there.  The question is what effect (if any) the inclusion of the Europe side will have at keeping India from inevitably falling to Japan as it seems to always do in Pac40.  I guess perhaps the S. African IC might be able to send extra units India’s way, but I’m guessing it’ll be busy fighting the Italians in Africa.  USSR will probably not be at war with Japan until after India normally falls, so they shouldn’t affect much.  The biggest thing might be the US getting the rest of their income, but obviously some of that will go to Europe.

    It looks like extra action has been added in the Pacific to make that theater be a little closer to history, but it appears that it will still only be a little bit bigger of a “speed-bump” than in AA50…  😐


  • @SilverAngelSurfer:

    All UK territories on the Pacific half of the map will be spent at the India IC.  All UK territories on the Europe half of the map will be able to be spent at any of UK’s 3 ICs there: England, South Africa, and Quebec.

    My concern is the production chart for Global: isn’t this going to be very annoying to count/track/split each time UK collects?  :? Wait, maybe the UK will have two charts of their own… :roll:


  • I like it, the Anz/US will have to come to India’s aid to keep UK ipc’s flowing in the Pacific.  You may need to make tough choices as UK. Do you bring in reinf from N Africa (Egypt, Mid East), or S Africa, knowing you’ll be weaker against Italy. These are choices you don’t have in Pac 40.

    The fact that if there is a successful sea lion, India (UK) can still fight on w/Pac ipc’s is a step in the right direction IMO. You will have other options for the UK fleet based in India too, unless there’s a J1 attack. The only thing that will be kinda weird is that the ipc’s from the west 1/2 of India (on the Euro map) will be awarded to the English IC (London), but they had to draw the line somewhere!


  • @WILD:

    I like it, the Anz/US will have to come to India’s aid to keep UK ipc’s flowing in the Pacific.  You may need to make tough choices as UK. Do you bring in reinf from N Africa (Egypt, Mid East), or S Africa, knowing you’ll be weaker against Italy. These are choices you don’t have in Pac 40.

    The fact that if there is a successful sea lion, India (UK) can still fight on w/Pac ipc’s is a step in the right direction IMO. You will have other options for the UK fleet based in India too, unless there’s a J1 attack. The only thing that will be kinda weird is that the ipc’s from the west 1/2 of India (on the Euro map) will be awarded to the English IC (London), but they had to draw the line somewhere!

    Maybe not, maybe “Western India” will be worth only 1 IPC. If that is the case, that 1 IPC should go to India and the 1 IPC from British Columbia (Canada) should go to the United Kingdom. That would make a lot more sense, to me anyway  :-D.


  • India should have to spend its Indian Income (India, Burma) in Inida but it can spend money from Hong Kong, Mayala and the DEI can be spent anywere.

    This will keep Indias income more stedy, instead of 33 to 7 in 2 turns.

    Also, NOs can be spent anywhere.


  • It looks like the US will not be able to ignore the Pacific.


  • @Dargoon:

    The only thing that will be kinda weird is that the ipc’s from the west 1/2 of India (on the Euro map) will be awarded to the English IC (London), but they had to draw the line somewhere!

    Maybe not, maybe “Western India” will be worth only 1 IPC. If that is the case, that 1 IPC should go to India and the 1 IPC from British Columbia (Canada) should go to the United Kingdom. That would make a lot more sense, to me anyway  :-D.

    That’s one way to look at it lol. I guess it would work out the same anyway.


  • The dividing line should be India gets all of the Asian continent IPC’s, UK gets the rest of the world.


  • I like the divide where the maps meet. Your already familiar with the tt’s under India’s thumb. There wouldn’t be much income if it was just Asia, most of it belongs to China. If UK gains control of the E Indies, its probably through a coordinated effort of units from India, and/or Anz. So yea the income the E Indies generates should go to India, or Anz IMO.

    From what Larry said there will not be an NO involving the E Indies in the global game and only England will get an NO, India will not.


  • @WILD:

    I like the divide where the maps meet. Your already familiar with the tt’s under India’s thumb. There wouldn’t be much income if it was just Asia, most of it belongs to China. If UK gains control of the E Indies, its probably through a coordinated effort of units from India, and/or Anz. So yea the income the E Indies generates should go to India, or Anz IMO.

    From what Larry said there will not be an NO involving the E Indies in the global game and only England will get an NO, India will not.

    It would be less than Asia as it stands now, so I don’t get your point unless your including Western Canada.


  • can Britain spend European Ipcs in india or only on the Europe side of the board.


  • @finnman:

    can Britain spend European Ipcs in india or only on the Europe side of the board.

    UK spends Euro $ in England, Canada, or S Africa.

    UK spends Pac $ in India


  • This sounds interesting at worst
    Awesome at best


  • @WILD:

    @finnman:

    can Britain spend European Ipcs in india or only on the Europe side of the board.

    UK spends Euro $ in England, Canada, or S Africa.

    UK spends Pac $ in India

    If this is the case, Japan should go all out to take out India early.


  • @WILD:

    @finnman:

    can Britain spend European Ipcs in india or only on the Europe side of the board.

    UK spends Euro $ in England, Canada, or S Africa.

    UK spends Pac $ in India

    Then, probably this will be broken. India cannot hold just only with 5 IPCs  😛 Card castle problem again, just that this time the castle starts falling from India instead from China. And what’s the stuff with canadian markers?

    House rules approaching …  :roll:


  • Assuming there are Seaports in Egypt and South Africa it wont be too difficult to funnel in a couple extra troops into India from the South Africa IC.  Japan will be far too preoccupied wreaking havoc in Pacific and dealing with the US to really disrupt UK transports with small escorts in the Indian Ocean.  Nothing is stopping the UK from using their Europe income on units that will be eventually be moved to India.


  • @TitusAndronicus:

    Assuming there are Seaports in Egypt and South Africa it wont be too difficult to funnel in a couple extra troops into India from the South Africa IC.  Japan will be far too preoccupied wreaking havoc in Pacific and dealing with the US to really disrupt UK transports with small escorts in the Indian Ocean.  Nothing is stopping the UK from using their Europe income on units that will be eventually be moved to India.

    With so much at stake, they will have to. This will make life easier for Germany.


  • @Brain:

    @TitusAndronicus:

    Assuming there are Seaports in Egypt and South Africa it wont be too difficult to funnel in a couple extra troops into India from the South Africa IC.  Japan will be far too preoccupied wreaking havoc in Pacific and dealing with the US to really disrupt UK transports with small escorts in the Indian Ocean.  Nothing is stopping the UK from using their Europe income on units that will be eventually be moved to India.

    With so much at stake, they will have to. This will make life easier for Germany.

    I’m not so sure how much it will make life easier for Germany, that remains to be seen considering we don’t know how the relative incomes of each country is affected by all the new territories being added.

    Larry has revealed the the Middle East will have a lot more territories and a lot more significance in the game than previously, especially for the UK and the Italians.  Africa has always been relatively important for the Axis to capture also in order to get the necessary funds to hold the Allies at bay.  This means that a UK shuck from S. Africa to the Middle East (whose back door is India) will be of utmost importance.

    If the Italians focus on taking the Middle East to get their NOs and open the door into Africa and the underbelly of Russia, they won’t have much else for dealing with Gibraltar or supporting Germany in Europe.  And if the Japanese move the IJN toward the East Coast of Africa, they open themselves up to the US/ANZAC further east in the Pacific.  We’ll have to see how it actually plays out considering the way Japan is playing out in the Pacific game right now, but I think the S. Africa/India combo in Global is going to be a tougher nut to crack than it first appears.


  • @Brain:

    @TitusAndronicus:

    Assuming there are Seaports in Egypt and South Africa it wont be too difficult to funnel in a couple extra troops into India from the South Africa IC.  Japan will be far too preoccupied wreaking havoc in Pacific and dealing with the US to really disrupt UK transports with small escorts in the Indian Ocean.  Nothing is stopping the UK from using their Europe income on units that will be eventually be moved to India.

    With so much at stake, they will have to. This will make life easier for Germany.

    I see a lot of cooperation w/India & S. Africa. I also see more cooperation between Italy and Japan (rare) to control the Indian ocean. Either of these IC’s in axis hands would be a real problem for the allies. If one falls the other could be next using the same routes (NB). N Africa/Mid East will definitely play a huge roll, and don’t forget about the feisty Anzac. The Indian ocean will see a lot more action.

    Its true that Jap will have its hands full w/US, but that could be as late as rd #4, if Jap can bait the UK. I wonder if a J1 attack will be as good an option in the Global game. They will have more UK units to deal with coming over from Africa, so India may stand tall. That and the US steaming in along with Russian aid to China could be overwhelming.


  • Keep in mind this is the 1940 scenario, the Royal Navy still has the HMS Hood and Ark Royal which could very well be reflected as an extra full AC and battleship (or cruiser) in the Atlantic, especially considering the Battleship outside Malaya in P40 probably represents the Prince of Wales.  Couple that with the near-certain UK naval base in Gibraltar, the French Navy and Fortress Malta with a scramble (last two confirmed by LH IIRC) it may not be particularly easy for Italian and German ships to sail around where ever they please.


  • If Indian money has to be spent in india does that mean

    All Brittish income from the Asian board has to be spend in India (including any captures of the DEIs)
    All income from the Asian conteniant (Hong Kong, Mayala)+the income from the DEIs can be spent anywhere.
    Just income from the subconteninat (India, Burma).

    Will Indian NOs go to London either


  • @SilverAngelSurfer:

    If the Italians focus on taking the Middle East to get their NOs and open the door into Africa and the underbelly of Russia, they won’t have much else for dealing with Gibraltar or supporting Germany in Europe.  And if the Japanese move the IJN toward the East Coast of Africa, they open themselves up to the US/ANZAC further east in the Pacific.  We’ll have to see how it actually plays out considering the way Japan is playing out in the Pacific game right now, but I think the S. Africa/India combo in Global is going to be a tougher nut to crack than it first appears.

    There will be no ANZAC money if India falls.


  • @democratic:

    If Indian money has to be spent in india does that mean

    All Brittish income from the Asian board has to be spend in India (including any captures of the DEIs)
    All income from the Asian conteniant (Hong Kong, Mayala)+the income from the DEIs can be spent anywhere.
    Just income from the subconteninat (India, Burma).

    Will Indian NOs go to London either

    Its the first one:All Brittish income from the Pacific board has to be spend in India (including any captures of the DEIs)

    From what Larry said the Pac side won’t have any UK NO’s (DEI) in global, but the income generated by DEI held by UK will go to India.

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