9/11 conspiracy



  • yummmmm . . . babies . . .

    or were you talking about chocolate babies?



  • It has been suggested that we change, but here in the U.S. anything French is associated with eating babies

    I always found the hate between French & English culture to be quite amusing.



  • @FinsterniS:

    I always found the hate between French & English culture to be quite amusing.

    Me too. Just watch Monty Python. The “French Lavatory Squat”. Brilliant. :lol:



  • “There is movement in the US to change the system ?”

    Well in schools, teachers teach us to use metric rulers and metric scales for any class work that utilizes measurements (though like CC said, there’s conflict of interested between our metric and the international metric system). However, I’m not sure people will totally accept the idea of throwing away the old Imperial System (that us Americans have come to love) in favor of the metric. A change will occur, though not overnight. You’ll have to wait until those raised on the “old system” to die out first before you can completely replace it with that of the new.

    “They use the metric system, for distance anyway… And it was a problem because one engineer use the Imperial system, and it cost a lot…”

    I think that the engineer should be penalized accordingly. It’s just seems so strange for a NASA scientist (a ROCKET Scientist for cryin’ out loud!) not to use metric. What else can I say, besides, get with the program?

    “America do not use the Metric system, and the UK too i think ( i am not sure )… i am sure it will endangers there sovereignty ”

    (From what I heard) I don’t think UK still uses the old system any more, and if so, very sparingly. So is UK really that “Must isolate from Europe, let’s stick with America?” Besides, UK isn’t dumb, allying themselves with the world’s most powerful (notice I didn’t say greatest) country is a smart move. I’m sure America would do the same if suddenly another country (unless our interest are so different) were to grab the international spotlight (hint, hint China).



  • “ Me too. Just watch Monty Python. The “French Lavatory Squat”. Brilliant. ”

    Who can forget Monty Python and the Search for the Hail Grail involving the French castle guardsmen?

    French Guard: You don’t frighten us, English pig-dogs! Go and boil your bottoms, son of a silly person! Ah blow my nose at you, so-called “Arthur Keeeng”! You and all your silly English Knnnnnnnn-ighuts!!!

    -Later on-

    French Guard: Ah don’ wanna talk to you no more, you empty-headed animal food-trough wiper! Ah fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!

    (the soldier proceeds to bang on his helmet with his hands and stick out his tongue at the knights, making strange noises.)

    I wonder if the French have anything as hilarious to show for the British. 😛



  • "BTW the metric system rules…damn all those who use farhenheit!

    Why you (amerian) are not using the metric system ? Because it is french ?

    And Canada is on the Metric system ? I know Quebec is, but i am not sure about the rest of the Canada…

    It cost Nasa a lot… "

    American laziness is why we don’t use the metric system. we should stop teaching the english system, and speed limits should have big number in KMPH. same with milk. what is a half a gallon, 1.89 liters?



  • “American laziness is why we don’t use the metric system. we should stop teaching the english system, and speed limits should have big number in KMPH. same with milk. what is a half a gallon, 1.89 liters?”

    If you want to start with something, try fixing the English language. At least we know that the “Imperial System” is uniform when it comes to pounds, feet, gallons, ect. The English language has so many exceptions, small details, and contradictions in it that it’s just itching to be tuned up. I mean why are “two leaf” equal to “two leaves” and not “two leafs?”



  • The Imperial system is far from uniform. 12 inches to a foot, but that’s the only measurement that creates another measurement at 12. For example, 12 pints dont make a gallon (or whatever pints add up to).



  • I meant as in exceptions to the rule. Hence 12 inches will always equal 1 foot. Yet in English, there are many exceptions to different rules, as I pointed out earlier.



  • Besides, UK isn’t dumb, allying themselves with the world’s most powerful (notice I didn’t say greatest) country is a smart move.

    Every country make sometime a stupid move; like UK allying themselves to the US. Not because the US are not powerfull, that is not the question, but because English are still european, anyway from a geographic point of view. By following USA like a little dog they will eventually suffert from the Anti-european feeling of the American and the Anti-american feeling of the European (it is not getting better with the International Court, Steel, Agriculture, Kyoto…); that is already the case. Also they do not want to be in the Alliance, London could (should?) be a very important city for busness in the union, but they don’t feel european and prefer to be isolated. Another thing, they may always follow america, their economy is still close to europe, and most of the Import/Export is in continental europe.

    UK; Exports - partners: EU 58% (Germany 12%, France 10%, Netherlands 8%), US 15% (1999)

    UK; Imports - partners: EU 53% (Germany 14%, France 9%, Netherlands 7%), US 13%, Japan 5% (1999)



  • “Every country make sometime a stupid move; like UK allying themselves to the US. Not because the US are not powerfull, that is not the question, but because English are still european, anyway from a geographic point of view. By following USA like a little dog they will eventually suffert from the Anti-european feeling of the American and the Anti-american feeling of the European (it is not getting better with the International Court, Steel, Agriculture, Kyoto…); that is already the case. Also they do not want to be in the Alliance, London could (should?) be a very important city for busness in the union, but they don’t feel european and prefer to be isolated. Another thing, they may always follow america, their economy is still close to europe, and most of the Import/Export is in continental europe.”

    One thing is right, England was able to survive and even benefit through centuries of “isolation.” Besides, England and USA have always been strategic partners since early days of the Republic. Only now the roles have been reversed. USA is no longer the “little dog” since the early days of the Monroe Doctrine. Even now, England holds the world’s 4th Largest Economy (well… until California surpasses it). Their economy is close to Europe, which is why they joined the euro, even though they were doing well without it. Also, I’m not sure where you’re getting this “Anti-European” feeling of the American, as most Americans would end up “hating” themselves. Certainly, US views England as “less-European” (if in fact this can be true).



  • 4th Largest Economy ? Base on what ? The GDP is ~1.36 Trillions, the GDP/capita is’nt great too; 22.800. France, German, Japan & US surpass the UK on all these points, the UK is even close to Italy in term of GDP & GDP/capita. I don’t see how it can be the 4th largest economy !



  • According to 2000 stats (I don’t think 2001 has been released yet), Britain does have the 4th Largest Economy. Various sites can also confirm this.

    Overall, the United States is the world’s top economy followed by Japan, Germany, the United Kingdom, California [if it were broken out as a country], and then France.

    TABLE B1.1: GDP, G7 COUNTRIES 2000, $US BILLION, CURRENT PRICES2
    Rank Country GDP
    1 USA 9,927
    2 Japan 4,611
    3 Germany 1,873
    4 UK 1,416
    5 France 1,291
    6 Italy 1,074
    7 Canada 688

    Do you have 2001 stats? This might change positioning order then.



  • Ok, there is a problem somewhere… when i look at CIA’s statistic, it is clear… (2000 est.).

    #1 USA, #2 Japan (don’t need stats for those…) then…

    GE = 1.936 (23 400/capita)
    FR = 1.448 (24 400/capita)
    UK = 1.36 (22 800/capita)
    IT = 1.273 (22 100/capita)

    Note that I don’t say my statistic is better i really don’t know…



  • The problem is that the CIA statistics is that it even says it’s an ESTIMATE of projected 2000 GNP. Therefore, I think that this data had to be given before the end of 2001 or even 1999 (I heard that French economy had a downturn in the last half of 2001 or 2000). I’m still unsure if the 2001 data is out, but check out this website if you want more information on UK and the rest of the world:
    http://www.radio.gov.uk/topics/bfwa/doc28ghz/info-mem-sep2001/bfwaap_b.htm

    Most of the sources are fairly up to date (2001).



  • Yes be wary of those GNP and GDP statistics (especially you yanny!) Find out how recent they are. Yanny was using a statistic from a website giving America a statistic from 1990, so it would look on average poorer than other nations.

    “, Kyoto”

    You bring this up? I love the environment, but Romania was the only country to sign it, because they didn’t have an economy that would be decimated by it.n American business would move to mexico and canada (even more so) or manufacturing would just go to china. The aims of Kyoto were unrealistc, and should of never been pursued. Yet the liberal media made it llok like Bush was insulting Europe by not “signing it.” Congress has to do that! Now Daschle and his liberal moron buddies are blaming Bush’s “tax-cut” for the defecit. It hasn’t even really went into effect! Blame Clinton for sigining bills that already blew 1.2 trillion of our supposed surplus before bush even went to office. Yet the media won’t tell you that. They will make the energy crisis in california look like Bush’s fault, and the failing dot-com economy Bush’s fault (whit started well into Clinton’s administration. Aside from the conservative fox news, which at least admits when they use opinions they are in editorials or fan mail (one of mine made it!!!), all other stations I have watched are slanted to the left.

    Be wary because the truth is very hard to find.



    1. i’m amazed F is using CIA figures . . . if you can’t beat em’ . . .
    2. Kyoto, i think Alberta is planning to leave Canada if we implement this.


  • “2) Kyoto, i think Alberta is planning to leave Canada if we implement this.”

    Yeah, California will succeed from the Union if US signs this. We already have many jobs leaving California because of the taxes and regulations.



    1. i’m amazed F is using CIA figures . . . if you can’t beat em’ . . .

    I have their “WORLDBOOK 2001” on my computer for a long time as well as i had the previous version (1999 i think), it is full of usefull information on economy/poppulation/language…

    I still don’t pardon them what they did to Allende :evil: , that is not a reason to reject everything they are making…

    1. Kyoto, i think Alberta is planning to leave Canada if we implement this.

    That is hysterical, reducing greenhouse gas emission is a good thing for any economy at long term. The kyoto protocol is based on very scientific research and projection about greenhouse gas emission, and the present protocol is even for some scientist (as well as some green extremist) not enough.

    And to answer to Horten…

    "as at 12-July-2002, 84 Parties have signed and 75 Parties have ratified or acceded to the Kyoto Protocol."



  • And i apologize then!


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