When is the non combat with US broken?

@ampdrive said in Where to place US IC ?:

I’ve always assumed that UK and Anzac units,when NOT at war with Japan ,can go to FIC while it still is owned by France

I think that their units can go to FIC but they don’t receive the territory’s income

I wouldn’t imagine building an mIC there ever worth it, but that’s just me.

Crockett36, just an FYI this is a Pacific 1940 thread, NOT a Global 1940 thread. So keep in mind your parts about defeating Germany are invalid in this particular situation  :-)

To sort of piggy back off of crockett36’s post though, for those that apply to a Pacific 1940 game, you’ll definitely need to look at how the whole game plays out. By that I mean, you’ll probably need to be prepared to be semi-aggressive with ANZAC and UK both with an Alaska strategy. As Crockett36 points out, you’ll be throwing most of your force that way presumably, so that leaves Japan to (also presumably) focus efforts north as well. If that happens, you’d want to be ready to pounce as ANZAC and UK, wouldn’t you? Attack the Caroline Islands, fortify the Philippines and DEI, etc.?

That all said, the other tricky thing about this strategy is knowing you start out on the second foot to Japan. they get to go first, so will dictate play a lot. Also depends on when Japan attacks. They start out with an obviously significantly larger naval force than the US, and could potentially leave enough force to deal with Alaska, and also continue to strike south. If a J1 happens, I think an Alaska build up is rather difficult.

But, if it’s delayed to J3, with a US entrance to war on US4, then you may reasonably be able to have built up a decent size force to do this. Again, assuming you coordinated with ANZAC and UK as well. This might all be pointless to do if ANZAC has only built defensive ground forces, or UK gone all ground force to help China, etc. You’d essentially have an empty theater in the south where Japan isn’t getting hit in that case. Or, by staying defensive, might allow Japan to still do what needs to be done in the south pacific without jeopardizing it’s Alaska force much.

@Lozmoid:

Hey guys, I am trying to put together a list of notes for Pacific 1940 for ease of gameplay purposes, and I’m currently revising the Conduct Combat phase. I think the step sequence for this phase should like something like:

**1. Enemy scrambles Fighters/Tactical Bombers

2. Enemy announces Kamikaze attacks (Japan only)

3. Strategic Bombing Raids

4. Amphibious Assaults**

5. General Combat

Do I have that all down correctly? Is there anything I’ve forgotten? Just want to make sure everything’s covered.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

It would be simpler to identify (4) as all naval combat, as that will need to preceed any amphibious assault to clear a seazone.  Additionally, as amphibious assaults can be paired with a overland assault, so it makes more sense for (5) to be all land combat.

However, it is completely up to the player as to how they run combats, as they may want to base retreat patterns on the results of a single battle, which they may want to run first, and that is always the attackers prerogative (assuming if it’s an amphib, they run the naval combat in that seazone first), so (4) and (5) can be switched around in any order.

Also, per the letter of the rules, 1 and 2 occur at the end of the combat move phase after attacker moves are finalized - not at the beginning of the combat phase.

Correct, you get the $ at the END of turn 3.  You can’t attack until turn 4 unless Japan kicks it off early.

@Romulus:

“Why are you moving those ACs next to my naval base?”
“ACs? Which ACs? They are luxurious liners with tourists on board”
“Mmm… and why there are three of them?”
“Never heard what happened to Titanic? We do not allow our liners going around alone…”

:-D

Just joking and not sure my joke is understandable (it id difficult for me to make a joke in English)!

My point is: in A&A it is impossible to move “secretly” units in order to place them for a surprise strike. Only way of modelling something like a surprise strike is allowing combat move to be made as the powers were still at peace and then… in the combat phase declaring the state of war starting to roll dice. Even so I believe it is really difficult to obtain a surprise.

:-D

Yeah, it is impossible to make surprise attacks the only surprise Japan can bring is when it will attack.

I’ve read once about a variation on Classic that allowed for tactical surprises: you’d need 2 boardgames, each for 1 player and a 3rd player acting as referee. You’d only know the location of enemy units were adjacent to yours or if you sent fighters on recon missions to SZs/territories. The moves of both players were simultaneous: you’d make your combat moves together then the referee would inform each player of the number of enemies for each battle.

Can American land units enter British and Anzac territories prior to a state of war between the US and Japan?

Europe will be close to the same crap that Pacific is because the same people work for WOTC.

I agree that it would happen so rarely its not really worth worrying about the consequences. I doubt the guy who was playing the US will ever let that happen again. Thanks for helping to point out the NO rule on the IPCs though. Didn’t even think about that aspect of it.