Submarine sneak attack

[gamerman01]

Sean, General HandGrenade answered you correctly, just to confirm  :-)

I was a young man in Nov. 2011!  :lol:
Always fun when an old topic gets brought to the surface

[oysteilo]

@ShadowHAwk:

@oysteilo:

Another fun fact

If you have only subs attacking, lets say a destroyer and some subs, then the defending subs get to fire surprise strikes against the attacking subs. In this case the attacker has no surprise strikes. Makes sense but I was somewhat surprised the first time i found out. Basically surprise defense

There is no real defence in naval warfare only attacking.
Shooting at the other guy can hardly be called defence, in land warfare you got minefields and bunkers they dont exist on water ( the bunkers not )

In my example the defending subs are fiering before any attacker. I don’t know of any other example where this happens and in all combat (except this one) attackers fire first. I just thought it would be good for people to realize. I did not think of this the first time I came across this situation!

[simon33]

If you think that would be cool then house rule it. Unless you’re playing on triple a. I doubt such a change would be incorporated into axis agendas allies.

[oysteilo]

Clearly ShadowHAwk does not understand what I am talking about.

1. Attacker has only subs
2. Defender has destroyer and subs

In this case defending subs fire first and any hits are assigned to attacking subs. The attacking subs who are hit do not fire back! hence the term surprise defence!

To my knowledge this is the only situation where  the defending side roll dice before attacker!