• @Bob_A_Mickelson:

    I would love to have pro allied, pro axis, strict neutral roundels that I could use in a special diplomatic phase in which countries could attempt to change the diplomatic stance of a country.

    I used a quick, easy and inexpensive method to make myself a bunch of custom roundels along these lines, using the grey mini poker chips that come with A&A games.  (I have large numbers of these from the A&A games I’ve bought over the years.)  Plain grey chips serve as strict neutral roundels.  I created four additional categories (pro-Axis neutral, full-Axis minor country, full-Allied minor country, and pro-Allied neutral) by applying two colours and two sizes of round Avery sticky labels to other grey mini poker chips.

    The two colours I used are black and white.  I can’t recall offhand the precise measurements of the two sizes I used, but the small ones fit exactly into the round depresssion in the middle of the chips, and the big ones are a bit smaller than the full diameter of the chips.  The coding system I used is: small black sticker = pro-Axis neutral, large black sticker = full-Axis minor country, large white sticker = full-Allied minor country, and small white sticker = pro-Allied neutral.  Each custom roundel is two-sided: one type has the small black and the large black stickers on opposite sides, while the other type does the same things with the white stickers.  That way, I didn’t have to make as many custom roundels as would have been necessary if I’d kept them one-sided.


  • 13th,

    The Nationalist “X” roundel was only used for a few aircraft. A better representation is the Spanish Red/Yellow/Red flag, or roundel version.

    Nationalist:

    Republican


  • @reloader-1:

    13th,

    The Nationalist “X” roundel was only used for a few aircraft. A better representation is the Spanish Red/Yellow/Red flag, or roundel version.

    Nationalist:

    Republican

    Indeed, but the nationalist X is the more iconic version, and the nationalist flag adopted by Franco was near similar to that of the pre-republic kingdom. To avoid confusion the X is better methinks. :-D


  • i agree with 13th


  • There is no confusion - an exact parallel is the US civil war. The north (union) used the US flag before,during,and after the civil war.


  • @reloader-1:

    There is no confusion - an exact parallel is the US civil war. The north (union) used the US flag before,during,and after the civil war.

    Not an exact parallel.

    An exact parallel would be that Franco’s nationalists LOSE the war and Spain continues as a republic.


  • Franco considered the Nationalists as the continuation of the kingdom.

    So Republicans = Confederacy (new flag)

    And Nationalists = Union (Same flag before, during, and after war)


  • @reloader-1:

    Franco considered the Nationalists as the continuation of the kingdom.

    So Republicans = Confederacy (new flag)

    And Nationalists = Union (Same flag before, during, and after war)

    Confederates tried to break away from the Union.
    Nationalists tried to break away from the Republic (which was at the time the internationally recognized continuation of the kingdom, despite what Franco later claimed).

    Still different :-D


  • And the Confederacy tried to get international recognition, and almost succeeded in doing so from Britain and France.

    My point is that the flag can be used without any confusion, as during the civil war it represents the Nationalists, and during all other times it represents Spain.

    Quite simple, really.


  • @reloader-1:

    And the Confederacy tried to get international recognition, and almost succeeded in doing so from Britain and France.

    almost… but not quite :-D

    My point is that the flag can be used without any confusion, as during the civil war it represents the Nationalists, and during all other times it represents Spain.

    Quite simple, really.

    If you put it like that, then yes. Still, for reasons of clear identification, I like the black version/cross because it stands out :-)


  • Yeah, I like the black version too because it makes for some differencewith the other roundels, as a lot of them are the tri-color ring roundels…  :-)


  • I like it too - but it would only be accurate for use as an internal Spanish/Nationalist flag during the Civil war (36-39) by the time of the other hostilities the red/yellow/red flag was used.

    I have a simple fix for all of this - I’ll post it here later.


  • This is an unsolicited plug for the custom roundels from HistoricalBoardGaming.com.  I just received my first sets today and they look AMAZING.  Without any exaggeration these are a better quality than the actual Hasbro versions - stemped cleaner, printed better, and thick.  If you have been thinking about ordering, you won’t be disappointed.

    I am not in any way affiliated with Coach of Many or his company - just an extremely satisfied customer!


  • I got mine too virtual and they are nice. Only complaint would be that they have a smoother back instead of the rougher cardboard. I would still recommend to all. Give us the RED STAR AND SWASTIKA. Thanks Dave


  • I bought this map ( large vinyl version) and about 6-7 sets of roundels and the paper money.

    I already got sets for some of the minor axis and neutrals.

    Very good quality to be sure.

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    I hope everybody buys more of them so that I can produce even more.
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  • ok im hopefully buying to night(or my brother is).  thanks for lowering the price on the roundels.


  • Cminke: you cant go wrong with these. Definitely get some of the roundels for your G40 games.


  • dont worrie im just waiting on a credit card

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