A&A Anniversary Dilemma - to open or not?

[Krieghund]

The rules can be found here, and the current FAQ can be found here.

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@skinny1:

The new global game will be the standard and AA50 will go by the wayside and won’t be played much IMHO.

New GLOBAL game?

to what do you refer?
Are you talking about putting two games together to make on global game?

[Viracocha]

I believe it refers to the latest Pacific and upcoming Europe… together they portray WWII on a ‘global’ level.

I disagree that AAA50th will be on the wayside, for a lot of reasons…

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@Viracocha:

I believe it refers to the latest Pacific and upcoming Europe… together they portray WWII on a ‘global’ level.

I disagree that AAA50th will be on the wayside, for a lot of reasons…

yes, that option to join AAE and AAP (perhaps it’s more intended to be complimentary THIS time) didn’t work out before.

So I agree, two saperate games put together do not make one great global game.

I could be wrong, but the track record for making ONE good/balanced A&A game is not that great, let alone trying to tie together two seperate ones?

[A Former User]

@Viracocha:

I believe it refers to the latest Pacific and upcoming Europe… together they portray WWII on a ‘global’ level.

I disagree that AAA50th will be on the wayside, for a lot of reasons…

Yes, it refers to the AAE40 and AAP40 when combined. I say AA50 will not be played much because if you listen to people that say they have AA50 and Revised, they no longer play Revised and only play AA50. Why? Maybe it is because of the addition of a playable China and Italy and a bigger map? What will we have in combined games of 1940? A much bigger map and more countries, 7 or 8 players worth, and with the convoy routes that AA50 did not include, tactical bombers, mechanized infantry, air bases, sea ports, etc. I believe that AA50 will collect dust on the shelf. Maybe I am wrong but if you follow the trends that people soon forget the old when the new and improved is released it makes sense. What are the reasons why you think that AA50 will not be shelved? Other than players that have AA50 but have no intentions on getting the 1940 global games.

The same applies to Pacific. How many players that have both versions of Pacific still play the old one? I hear complaints that the new version left this or that out, or they should have done this or that but that does not indicate that the new one was ditched to keep playing the old.

[Viracocha]

My reasons… well, first off, the new Pacific has some serious issues.  Granted, the ‘global rules’ may take care of those issues, but they may also surface in the Europe game (and I’m not holding my breath for an error free European edition…).

And you mention all those new features, " convoy routes that AA50 did not include, tactical bombers, mechanized infantry, air bases, sea ports, etc."

Well yeah - it’s actually getting to the point where it’s not the same game… (good and bad).  And then there’s the time restraints, the whole global game will take much, much longer.  Some folks can’t commit to that.  And overall, AAA50 is a great game, I find it much more enjoyable than the latest Pacific - or any of the previous for that matter.  But that’s because it is a good game - not simply because it’s the latest.  Not that I won’t play the new global combo, I will.  But AAA50th has earned a spot in my heart alongside my Nova ed., and it certainly won’t get dusty.

And I don’t think the assessment that everyone is packing up revised is accurate… I think revised still makes some appearances out there.

And no one plays the old Pacific because it was lame in the first place (imho).

[Battlingmaxo]

@Viracocha:

And no one plays the old Pacific because it was lame in the first place (imho).

I loved the old pacific and thought it was very easy to handicap by sliding the VP scale. Might even be better now if one uses the aa50 sub rules which would eliminate substalling.  I miss my US marines.

[Viracocha]

Well… statement was a bit strong on my part - gotta admit that it did see quite a few plays with some rough house rules.  Did love the concept of course.

Sidenote: Despite previous post, I really, really hope the global A&A is good.

[A Former User]

@Viracocha:

Sidenote: Despite previous post, I really, really hope the global A&A is good.

So do I.

@Viracocha:

My reasons… well, first off, the new Pacific has some serious issues.  Granted, the ‘global rules’ may take care of those issues, but they may also surface in the Europe game (and I’m not holding my breath for an error free European edition…).

Well yeah - it’s actually getting to the point where it’s not the same game… (good and bad).

I cannot disagree with these statements. Lets hope for the best and I know I will expect the worst. I do know that I will not buy AAE40 the day it is out like I did with AAP40. I am going to wait. I waited months before buying AA42. I really enjoy the small global games compared to the theater specific games. But these small global games do take too long to play. I have recently gone around long games by getting Settlers of Catan. 3 games in 2 days. Not too bad.

[Wilson2]

@skinny1:

I say AA50 will not be played much because if you listen to people that say they have AA50 and Revised, they no longer play Revised and only play AA50. Why? Maybe it is because of the addition of a playable China and Italy and a bigger map?

I have AA50 and still play revised. Why? Because revised has AARe, and as of yet, there is nothing comparable in AA50 (we are working on it though - see AA50: Strategic). I still like AA50 as a lighter game, but for real strategy and matches of skill I play AARe. Additionally, revised takes less time than AA50 and AA50 will likely take less time than the global game. This is needed if you are playing with friend and they aren’t staying more than 5-6 hours.

[Builder_Chris]

open it, play it, enjoy it! its a way cool game!

OR…be like the kid that grew up across the street from me; he had ALL the star wars toys and GI Joe toys a kid could want and his dad convinced him to keep them in the box becosue one day they would be worth LOTS of MONEY!

my best freind and i see him from time to time…he doenst look like he made THAT much money from it! and the memories i have of all the times i played with my shtuff are still with me and my best friend, that dude that “had it all” doenst even remeber what half  it was!

man, most of you die hard players would freak at the condition of my AA50 game!  the map is still NEWish looking and the peices are NEWish looking too…but the box…its held together with duct tape becosue i’ve tossed it in my work truck, bed mounted tool box and i’ve taken it to three out of state contructuon projects i’ve been on since i got the game!

yes, the box looks like hell and i coulndt get $50 for it now i bet…BUT…the fun i’ve had playeing that game cant be counted! and the box…it still holds the game!

[Viracocha]

You sir, encapsulate the spirit of the game!  I can’t say that I’d do the same… (I went so far as to slap some paint and decals on my minis), but at the end of the day - I’m with ya.  I did apply clear tape to my AAA50 box though - kinda laminated in a cheap way, but it travels with me on occasion (over the Atlantic in a suitcase).

You call others “die hard” players?  Perhaps, but in my book you’re the step up, the “hardcore” player!